Ford announces Google partnership as its preferred Cloud provider beginning 2023

[zackmd1]

I love your naiveté'.

Guaranteed Google is already sharing the speed & location data of users of Google Maps and Waze with the insurance industry. Somewhere, somehow, it's already happening.

Where is the proof? If you have it, please share.... Otherwise you created/used a conspiracy theory to justify your opinion...

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[NoVaGT]

Where is the proof? If you have it, please share.... Otherwise you created/used a conspiracy theory to justify your opinion...

The Patriot Act. And decades of knowing how information, data and power are used and abused, hand-in-hand. It's funny that you label things a conspiracy theory, just because you don't want to accept them.

Google and your insurance company, are not your friends. They're businesses, and they do what businesses do.

 

[zackmd1]

The Patriot Act

 

[NoVaGT]

Logic. Common sense. History. Business acumen.

What the future holds is clear.

 

[ice445]

The point being:
What are you using to log into this site to read and post? What and who did you sign up with to get that provider service on your XYZ device to get online to do .... well almost anything in today’s world. Your personal data has already been mined, way before any vehicle had such equipment installed. Your data was being mined the day you signed ANY paper document with your personal info, period - before the 90’s and the “tech age” sprouted.

Disconnecting internal vehicle modems, antennas or modules will eventually lead to inoperation and/or DTC’s because vehicles are becoming more and more attached digitally, period.

Soon enough disconnecting something will most likely result in warranty issues - because the revised wording in vehicle warranty lingo will be along the lines of “tampering”...

It’s coming... and don’t even think the vehicle manufacturers are not coming up with ways to lock out PCM/modules/As Built data to prevent DIY Forscan’rs....

There’s already been multiple internal Ford SSM/TSB’s notifying dealerships that if vehicles are coming in with modified As Built, added modules or equipment that was non-standard based on the As Built, that it will not be covered under Warranty (ie: new car, Powertrain or ESP).

As the progression gets closer and closer to more EV’s being on the roads - trust me, it’s going to be harder for the average DIYer to “disconnect”, because a disconnect will most likely render another system or module inop, affecting drivability.

Got any links to those SSM/TSB's?

I love your naiveté'.

Guaranteed Google is already sharing the speed & location data of users of Google Maps and Waze with the insurance industry. Somewhere, somehow, it's already happening.

Insurance rates will rise because of it.

Aggregate data yes, personal linked data no. Otherwise insurance companies wouldn't be begging users to install their shitty monitoring apps for a discount.

 

[dx2]

My next vehicle will have 1HP and won't need gas or have battery.

 

[CJJon]

My next vehicle will have 1HP and won't need gas or have battery.

Just as long as it isn't a dressage vehicle!

 

[Vlad Soare]

My next vehicle will have 1HP and won't need gas or have battery.

You mean you'll get one of these?

It may need no gas, but I'm afraid you'll need a lot of carrots to keep it going. It may not be much cheaper in the long run. Nor more environmentally friendly for that matter.

 

[cactus_kid]

What is so great about it? Not being flip, but all I see is another way to wring money out of consumers.

Also, just another way for Ford/google to track you. Gotta love burner phones !

 

[cactus_kid]

Carry a smartphone? If so, it already is....

Burner phone or, shut the damn thing off as I do.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Does anyone really think that Google or any tech Co. for that matter has the time/energy/employees to sit there and monitor ALL of the bazillions of lines of data streaming back into their servers to go:

“Ah, ha - gotcha NoVaGT, you were speeding down highway-X @ 116mph and flipped off some old granny in the left lane, while making an inappropriate lane change past the Taco Bell at GPS coordinates XYZ at 6:21pm Friday night”....

LMAO... nope.

 

[NoVaGT]

Does anyone really think that Google or any tech Co. for that matter has the time/energy/employees to sit there and monitor ALL of the bazillions of lines of data streaming back into their servers to go:

“Ah, ha - gotcha NoVaGT, you were speeding down highway-X @ 116mph and flipped off some old granny in the left lane, while making an inappropriate lane change past the Taco Bell at GPS coordinates XYZ at 6:21pm Friday night”....

LMAO... nope.

Methinks someone doesn't grasp technology. Time/energy/employees are completely un-necessary. Software does all that, and it's already being done.

Don't you use WAZE or Google maps? Any navigation? Can't you see where it tells you your speed, as well as the posted speed limit? WAZE (which is the same thing as Google maps/navigation) will highlight the speed-limit in red when you go over it.

A bit of code, and it's incredibly easy for any navigation software to pinpoint when, where, for how long and for what distance you were speeding.....and by how much over the limit. Then create a nice little "log" of your indiscretion, and send it off to....whomever.

That is done completely and utterly devoid of any human interaction/effort, other than the initial writing of the software code.

Incredibly easy, and absolutely already being done. It's actually part of some auto insurance policies. Do you think those insurance companies have real, live (and paid) people that constantly monitor each GPS unit that's installed into their customer's cars, monitoring if/when those vehicles are driven over the speed limit?

Nope. Software does it all.

Pretty soon (I'm guessing in the next few years) some state (quite possibly California) will mandate speed monitoring GPS units in all new vehicles. And maybe even mandate retrofitting systems into cars without navigation systems.

 

[zackmd1]

Methinks someone doesn't grasp technology. Time/energy/employees are completely un-necessary. Software does all that.

Don't you use WAZE or Google maps? Any navigation? Can't you see where it tells you your speed, as well as the posted speed limit? WAZE (which is the same thing as Google maps/navigation) will highlight the speed-limit in red when you go over it.

A bit of code, and it's incredibly easy for any navigation software to pinpoint when, where, for how long and for what distance you were speeding.....and by how much over the limit. Then create a nice little "log" of your indiscretion, and send it off to....whomever.

That can be done completely and utterly devoid of any human interaction/effort, other than the initial writing of the software code.

Incredibly easy, and quite possibly already being done.

Methinks someone doesn’t quite grasp software development and the amount of time and effort required to write that code that you are referring to... It’s not a simple line of code. What you are worried about would require a low level AI. All for to little to no benefit of the company and its products....

 

[NoVaGT]

Methinks someone doesn’t quite grasp software development and the amount of time and effort required to write that code that you are referring to... It’s not a simple line of code. What you are worried about would require a low level AI. All for to little to no benefit of the company and its products....

You do understand this is already a thing, right?

Did you miss that it's already part of some auto insurance companies policies? Has been for years now??

https://www.amfam.com/resources/articles/understanding-insurance/car-insurance-tracking-device

Good Christ.....and I think I'm out of touch with technology.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Understood there is software that mines and interprets the mined data; BUT you still need PEOPLE to work with that data, regardless of how much data is being mined and extracted from millions of data points.

I’m not disagreeing that data isn’t being mined or that the mined data can be used in any format needed...

All I’m saying is -
1) Our personal data/info has been in the hands of MANY since BIRTH. The moment your data was logged on paper eons ago, and the moment any one of us has signed up for ABC application for whatever, whenever and wherever, be it online from the 90’s forward to current day - it’s been sold off to anyone anywhere on this planet and used for XYZ tracking or
purposes.

2) There’s not enough time for ANYONE to constantly review the data being transmitted from every “connected” vehicle on the planet at any given time - we’re talking data that is being gathered by the nano-seconds and is changing INSTANTLY.

Using vehicle data for crash recreations and/or to get info for serious crimes - yes the data mined does come in handy - but it still has to be requested. It’s not like anyone has a digital folder on you, me or the next M6G member and can easily just open it and say “yep, look at this”.

My earlier post was to say that for those “disconnecting” devices in their S550’s due to Tin Foil Hat Syndrome is just silly. As more and more vehicles are reliant on digital modules and “feeds”, trying to disconnect such modules will be harder to do without causing drivability issues.

It’s also to say - doesn’t matter about what a vehicle has as far as being “connected” - people who have ANY digital device that are reading this very thread - YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN LOGGED AND TRACKED the day you signed up for your ISP and/or phone, period. So if you’re going to disconnect modules in your car, might as well throw your mobile device in the nearest lake and cancel any/all such “connections” to the modern world.

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