Camaro SS, ZL1 not salable in California and Washington. Are GT, Mach I, and GT500 impacted?

[martinjlm]

Just read where new rules that take effect in the states of Washington and California on Jan. 1, 2021 will mean customers can’t order any Camaro with Brembo brakes. Cars on lots as of that date can still be sold, but new ones can’t be ordered. This is because of the copper content of the brakes. GM is changing the brake spec for ‘22 so that they can be sold then.

Just wondering if anyone is aware if Mustangs with Brembo brakes are also affected.

Camaros with Brembos are no-go

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[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Another case of California stupidity. Nuff said

 

[Zelek]

Just came in here to laugh at California............ Again.

 

[Biggus Dickus]

Jeez - all 3 of my cars have Brembos.

 

[Adamone92]

im sure they will just throw different brake pads that's aren't made from copper in there.

 

[Bikeman315]

Just read where new rules that take effect in the states of Washington and California on Jan. 1, 2021 will mean customers can’t order any Camaro with Brembo brakes. Cars on lots as of that date can still be sold, but new ones can’t be ordered. This is because of the copper content of the brakes. GM is changing the brake spec for ‘22 so that they can be sold then.

Just wondering if anyone is aware if Mustangs with Brembo brakes are also affected.

Camaros with Brembos are no-go

Hopefully Ford already took care of this issue.

https://jalopnik.com/heres-why-you-cant-buy-a-camaro-ss-or-zl1-in-california-1845833877

California and Washington signed their respective brake pad bills into law back in 2010. In addition to limiting the amount of copper used in brake pads starting in 2021, the laws also banned heavy metals and asbestos from manufacturing in 2015. In 2025, the laws will become even more stringent, limiting brake pads to a maximum of 0.5 percent carbon composition.

 

[schmeky]

Bunch of tree huggin' goobers on the west coast (no offensive to 6G members there).

 

[Adamone92]

Bunch of tree huggin' goobers on the west coast (no offensive to 6G members there).

then those same ones in power will turn around and drive the same cars they banned. similar to COVID and "leaders" not wearing masks and not being in large gatherings. hypocrites.

but ill avoid that political topic for obvious reasons.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

I wonder how long it will be before Commiefornia starts to regulate how many squares of toilet paper your allowed to use per sitting? It seems they want to regulate everything else.

 

[Bikeman315]

Guy's, take a second and read the article. This law goes back ten years. And there is a good reason for it. Copper dust is right up there with lead in paint and asbestos. This stuff is bad for you, period. Why GM never addressed them is a good question. Have Ford and FCA? I guess we will find out.

Edit: Let's go back to 1991. And this is Federal.

https://www.epa.gov/dwreginfo/lead-and-copper-rule

 

[Bikeman315]

Unless there is something I dont understand its just the pad right? yo can put any pad in there why would they not allow the sale of the whole car? that seems silly. I would not think a car company would just stop selling entire lines of cars in a specific state because of a replaceable low dollar item.

Because the pads come on the car. GM had ten freaking year to fix this. They knew it was coming.

Maybe California should stop spending billons of researching if every single item ever created causes cancer and spend that money on curing cancer instead?

How exactly do you cure something without knowing what causes it? Also copper has been an issue for over 30 years. This isn't new and California didn't spend billions on it. This is strictly a GM issue. They screwed up.

LOL I try not too. Why does anyone live there again?

Seriously, you live in Asheville and you ask this question? Because for all of it's faults, no pun intended, it is a beautiful state with a lot to offer.

Its known to the state of California that useing more then 2 sqs can cause cancer.

You know its one thing to rag on a state you live in, not so cool when you don't.

 

[Elp_jc]

So what's the official reason those cars are not saleable in California? As mentioned, it must be the pads, which are super easy to change. Seems stupid a manufacturer would not just replace the pads to sell their cars there for a year... if that's it. But is it?

 

[luc]

I always enjoy those posts that insult California. We have all what we need here and we don’t need anymore people coming here. So thanks for those very helpful comments
1 of the things that I really enjoy in California are the 8 road racing tracks that are open and usable all year long
As a matter of fact I’m going to Laguna Seca next week
Btw, the size of the California economy dwarf, at 2.448 trillion, every other us states...
Ever wonder why ?

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