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Just saw the new Toyota Supra reveal. Holy crap! It is ONLY avail. With 8 speed automatic. FORGET it! I feel so fortunate we still have a manual. So much more engaging. Until my body falls apart, manual only for me, thank you.
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Just saw the new Toyota Supra reveal. Holy crap! It is ONLY avail. With 8 speed automatic. FORGET it! I feel so fortunate we still have a manual. So much more engaging. Until my body falls apart, manual only for me, thank you.
I'm not very familiar with JDM stuff, so I could get it wrong. But I feel like they kind of missed the mark on these. My understanding was the Supra is largely popular due to the tunability and big power capability out of the 2JZ - seems like they aren't catering to this crowd with the new car.

Mix that with the $49k+ price tag, and you're starting to play with some serious competition. Hmmm

But only time will tell. I imagine Toyota/BMW are smarter than me with their own demographics :)
 

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I would much rather shift than turn a new knob as in some of the newer trucks and SUVs along with the new 500!
 

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I would much rather shift than turn a new knob as in some of the newer trucks and SUVs along with the new 500!
I've had rental cars with these crappy whiz-wheels. Ugh.
 

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Has there been any reliable information regarding Ford continuing the GT350 beyond 2019? I have searched a bit and could have swore I read 2020 was locked in but now I can't find anything saying anything beyond 2019.

I am hoping that with the GT500 being auto only there would be a spot in the Ford Performance stable for both cars to exist.
 
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Just saw the new Toyota Supra reveal. Holy crap! It is ONLY avail. With 8 speed automatic. FORGET it! I feel so fortunate we still have a manual. So much more engaging. Until my body falls apart, manual only for me, thank you.
Yes! My biggest car related mistake was getting the SMG transmission with the E46 M3 12 years ago. Only manual sports cars since then.
 

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Yes! My biggest car related mistake was getting the SMG transmission with the E46 M3 12 years ago. Only manual sports cars since then.
BMW SMG's though were truly utter pieces of hot doo-doo garbage though. The ZF8 is actually a good transmission.
 

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I actually have no issue with a rotary knob on an automatic. It’s a logical evolution in human factors and it takes up much less space than a lever. I liked it on the Dodge Ram I rented.

But, I’d sure rather row my gears than let a computer do it!
 

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https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sh...ord-mustang-shelby-gt500-dct-manual-possible/

We spoke with Carl Widdman, head engineer for Ford Performance and the Mustang, just after the GT500 was unveiled in Detroit today. I asked if we could see a three-pedal GT500 in the future.

"Right now, we're DCT-only, [but] we get feedback, and we're real tight with the Mustang crowd," Widdman said. I asked if that meant a manual was on the table. "We always listen to what our customers want, right?" he said with a grin.
After reading this, it got me thinking. We all know the DCT and Automatics are faster and put up better numbers. Better numbers sell more cars. What if...Ford is still planning on a manual transmission for the GT500 but they wanted to release it with the DCT first, get all the numbers out there in the magazines, reviews, and articles so it gets stuck in people's minds. THEN...in a year...release the manual transmission option. Yeah, it will be slower. DEFINITELY more fun. But all the magazine/internet racers will have the original numbers ingrained in their heads so everyone's happy. Ford has the faster numbers published and known. And the enthusiasts get their fun/manual driving pleasure. No loss in sales. No loss in bench racing contests.

Think it's possible?
 

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Manuals and Harleys...modern anachronisms that live on! Manuals have zero place in any modern day performance discussion.
 

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After reading this, it got me thinking. We all know the DCT and Automatics are faster and put up better numbers. Better numbers sell more cars. What if...Ford is still planning on a manual transmission for the GT500 but they wanted to release it with the DCT first, get all the numbers out there in the magazines, reviews, and articles so it gets stuck in people's minds. THEN...in a year...release the manual transmission option. Yeah, it will be slower. DEFINITELY more fun. But all the magazine/internet racers will have the original numbers ingrained in their heads so everyone's happy. Ford has the faster numbers published and known. And the enthusiasts get their fun/manual driving pleasure. No loss in sales. No loss in bench racing contests.

Think it's possible?
I believe this is called "Pulling a Porsche" in the auto industry. I'll bet your 100% right.
 
 








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