Line Lock - Wheelspin Feeling Afterwards

[Shifting_Gears]

The higher rpm you drop the clutch the less stress you put on it. To be honest it sounds like most guys would be better just doing an old fashion power brake. If done correctly minimal rear brake wear occurs. Rev up to 6k, dump clutch, jab break quickly but lightly with left foot and then release break after smoke show and roll out of burnout for 10-15 foot pedaling the gas until traction regains. Don't get crazy and try to completely burn out through 1st or 2nd. Crowd crusher emblems are available on the web. Have fun but be safe!

Yep this is spot on.

Logic doesn’t apply when it comes to drivetrain stress and burnout method.

The quicker you break the tires loose the less stressful it is on anything else.

The clutch takes a beating any time it’s slipped more than required. That applies to taking off, shifting technique, burnouts, etc.

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[ripto]

I have read people saying that they do burnouts in 2nd gear. Why choose 2nd over 1st? Less stress to the clutch?

 

[scrubber3]

I have read people saying that they do burnouts in 2nd gear. Why choose 2nd over 1st? Less stress to the clutch?

No, just spinning the tires faster. Good for showboating. Just never ever ever start a burnout in 2nd gear. Talk about clutch and valvetrain stress...

 

[Noggles]

2nd gear gets you more wheel speed with less rpms. Gets the tires hotter, quicker without revving to the moon.

 

[NoVaGT]

....Today I went and tried it again after it rained and I rev'd it higher, to about 3.5-4k and released the clutch in one smooth quick motion, but didn't completely dump it. There was some jerking and as the load on the engine dropped the RPM, I gave it more and went to about 6k and the tires broke free. I kept it around 3k for a few seconds, then as I was approaching the end of the timer I was expecting it to launch but it didn't.........

You were "expecting it to launch"??????

For real??? Like.......you thought the car was going to launch itself forward???

 

[ripto]

I have read people starting a burnout in 2nd gear. Never personally seen it so I'm not sure the outcome but I have read that.

You were "expecting it to launch"??????

For real??? Like.......you thought the car was going to launch itself forward???

Yes, why wouldn't I expect that? I'm at 3K RPM with the tires spinning and the line lock counter hits zero I would have expected the car to move. Isn't that the same as setting launch control at 3K RPM? I have since read that the car does respond well to the counter hitting zero and that it is best to cancel the line lock to launch.

 

[NoVaGT]

Yes, why wouldn't I expect that? I'm at 3K RPM with the tires spinning and the line lock counter hits zero I would have expected the car to move. Isn't that the same as setting launch control at 3K RPM? I have since read that the car does respond well to the counter hitting zero and that it is best to cancel the line lock to launch.

Line Lock has nothing to do with launching the car. That's not what it's for, not what it does. The counter is just showing you how long Line Lock is active for, which means your front brakes are locked. That's all. Line Lock is just for warming up your rear tires.

It has nothing to do with Launch Control.

And you have a manual transmission, so Launch Control is pretty useless.....or redundant. If you know how to drive a manual transmission properly.

Is this your first manual car?

 

[ripto]

Line Lock has nothing to do with launching the car. That's not what it's for, not what it does. The counter is just showing you how long Line Lock is active for, which means your front brakes are locked. That's all. Line Lock is just for warming up your rear tires.

It has nothing to do with Launch Control.

And you have a manual transmission, so Launch Control is pretty useless.....or redundant. If you know how to drive a manual transmission properly.

Is this your first manual car?

I understand what line lock and launch control are for. All I was saying that when the line lock counter hit zero, I expected the front brakes to unlock and the car to go. I don't think that is a farfetched expectation for someone who has never used line lock before.

I have been riding motorcycles for about 10 years and manual cars for about 6 years, my previous car was a Focus 5 speed. I have never launched because I'm afraid of damaging the clutch or drive train from doing it, but it seems it will encounter the same stress as a burnout.

 

[NoVaGT]

I understand what line lock and launch control are for. All I was saying that when the line lock counter hit zero, I expected the front brakes to unlock and the car to go. I don't think that is a farfetched expectation for someone who has never used line lock before.

I have been riding motorcycles for about 10 years and manual cars for about 6 years, my previous car was a Focus 5 speed. I have never launched because I'm afraid of damaging the clutch or drive train from doing it, but it seems it will encounter the same stress as a burnout.

Line Lock is a burnout-helper, that's it. The car's not going to move forward (much), if the wheels are spinning and a smokey burnout is happening.

Please share what you mean by "I have never launched....". What do you mean by that?

 

[ripto]

Line Lock is a burnout-helper, that's it. The car's not going to move forward (much), if the wheels are spinning and a smokey burnout is happening.

Please share what you mean by "I have never launched....". What do you mean by that?

I understand. Maybe I used the wrong word. I didn't expect it to fly off the line, but I expected it to start to move forward.

By that I meant I never rev'd to a specific RPM and dumped the clutch from a stop.

 

[NoVaGT]

I understand. Maybe I used the wrong word. I didn't expect it to fly off the line, but I expected it to start to move forward.

By that I meant I never rev'd to a specific RPM and dumped the clutch from a stop.

Well, it's easier on your car if you don't dump the clutch. On the other hand, it's fast and fun. But with a manual transmission, launch control is pretty silly.

 

[ripto]

Well, it's easier on your car if you don't dump the clutch. On the other hand, it's fast and fun. But with a manual transmission, launch control is pretty silly.

Yeah I see it is redundant but a neat feature. From what I am gathering on here though, if you don't dump the clutch, you can damage it pretty severely, which it seems I narrowly avoided. Seems like a lesser of two evils deal with wearing the clutch via slip or shocking the drive train.

I am still really curious as to what that sensation I was feeling was. Does the clutch or flywheel expand irregularly when heated but returns to normal after a bit? It seemed to last about 15 minutes where it felt like there was excess material on one portion of either of those two components causing that slip or bump feel when taking off from a stop.

 

[NoVaGT]

Yeah I see it is redundant but a neat feature. From what I am gathering on here though, if you don't dump the clutch, you can damage it pretty severely, which it seems I narrowly avoided. Seems like a lesser of two evils deal with wearing the clutch via slip or shocking the drive train.

I am still really curious as to what that sensation I was feeling was. Does the clutch or flywheel expand irregularly when heated but returns to normal after a bit? It seemed to last about 15 minutes where it felt like there was excess material on one portion of either of those two components causing that slip or bump feel when taking off from a stop.

Yes, you just dump the clutch, and get the tires spinning. Your foot should come off the pedal briefly. Your clutch isn't meant to slip and slip and slip.

What you did is probably messed up the friction material on your clutch. Don't worry, it will smooth out as it wears away.

 

[ripto]

Yes, you just dump the clutch, and get the tires spinning. Your foot should come off the pedal briefly. Your clutch isn't meant to slip and slip and slip.

What you did is probably messed up the friction material on your clutch. Don't worry, it will smooth out as it wears away.

Yeah honestly, I thought I took my foot off the clutch pretty quickly, taking no more than a second to do so, which I would have thought would have been fine.

What I THINK happened, is when I was around 2.5-3K RPM, that my tires were not actually spinning. I saw a video yesterday of a line lock, but the tires stopped for a few seconds here and then. The engine was obviously still running, which meant SOMETHING had to be spinning, i.e. the clutch. Is that a correct assumption?

Every now and then I do get a jerk when taking off but I attribute that to just not having a perfectly smooth balance between clutch and gas. I had that before as well I am 99.99% sure of.

 

[NoVaGT]

What I THINK happened, is when I was around 2.5-3K RPM, that my tires were not actually spinning. I saw a video yesterday of a line lock, but the tires stopped for a few seconds here and then. The engine was obviously still running, which meant SOMETHING had to be spinning, i.e. the clutch. Is that a correct assumption?....

If you had, say, 10 seconds of something slipping, and it wasn't your tires, and you were at 2.5-3K RPM, your clutch would be toast. There was probably wheel-spin you didn't know was happening.

HOPEFULLY there was wheel-spin you didn't know was happening.

Worst case scenario, you'd need a new clutch. And that's no big deal, just $$.

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