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We are in full agreement! It is always easy, no matter what the "thing," to get sucked into the "it is SOO much better" game. Cell phones, TV's, cameras, even appliances these days, and yes cars. My parents always stressed that there is no reason to replace something that is perfectly good and functional unless something changes and it is no longer sufficient. Now, I am not as good as they are about it, but I am much better than most I think. My last car that I bought for me was a 2002 Ford Taurus (got it cheap) and I drove that for over 11 years. Waiting for the S550 I drive my grandma's old 1996 Mercury Mystique for a couple of years before jumping up the Mustang (was waiting to find just what I wanted). It can be hard when you go looking at the newest with its newer features to walk back away, so usually I do not look until I am ready to buy. I guess this "gotta have the newest" mentality could also be the cause of the high divorce rate...
Same here. I bought a '14 Mustang in mid-2013 because I didn't know what the S550 would be like, and even if I liked it, I figured it would get improved with some sort of mid-cycle-refresh. I kept the S197 in good shape to maximize my return on it in case I wanted to sell it to get the updated S550. I liked what I saw in the '18 and bought one, but that was pretty much planned from the start, and took about 4 years. There's no way I would sell it to get a new S550 a couple of years later just because they made a few minor updates. I don't expect I'll get an S650 for that matter, since I tried to get all I wanted in the '18 I bought. Getting the new body style, IRS, improved interior, 10-speed auto and Magneride were significant upgrades over my S197, and it would take a lot to offer an equal level of improvements over the S550.
 

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It's called "Planned Obsolescence".

If anything stayed the same nothing would sell except as a replacement, aka a refrigerator.

Auto manufacturers have to constantly adapt upgrade, modify, improve to create emotions to get us to Buy.

Has the iPhone really changed since 2007? :giggle:
 

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It's called "Planned Obsolescence".

If anything stayed the same nothing would sell except as a replacement, aka a refrigerator.

Auto manufacturers have to constantly adapt upgrade, modify, improve to create emotions to get us to Buy.

Has the iPhone really changed since 2007? :giggle:
iPhone has changed some, but Apple has a different strategy. They "update" it after about 2-2.5 years and immediately after that "update" the phone becomes unusable in its slowness and burns through battery much faster. My wife has had this happen to her on two separate iPhone models and it is very predictable, so she delayed the updates for as long as possible, it force-updated at some point and BAM, it was slow as hell. She is now done with them and has a Samsung.

Understand that is what they do, but it is up to us as consumers to rule our own wallets. You cannot be forced into buying anything, that comes from within you. I do not care if your car is .3 faster to 60, or .5 faster to the quarter. Mine is fast enough for me, and I can make it faster if I so choose.
 

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Has the iPhone really changed since 2007? :giggle:
iPhone has changed some, but Apple has a different strategy. They "update" it after about 2-2.5 years and immediately after that "update" the phone becomes unusable in its slowness and burns through battery much faster. My wife has had this happen to her on two separate iPhone models and it is very predictable, so she delayed the updates for as long as possible, it force-updated at some point and BAM, it was slow as hell. She is now done with them and has a Samsung.
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It's called "Planned Obsolescence".

If anything stayed the same nothing would sell except as a replacement, aka a refrigerator.

Auto manufacturers have to constantly adapt upgrade, modify, improve to create emotions to get us to Buy.

Has the iPhone really changed since 2007? :giggle:
glad to see others are aware...speaking of refrigerators, check how the warranties have been reduced over the years. almost like built to fail or planned ob.
my complaint is more about holding back technologies so they can spread out the sales and offer the new best thing later. your example, the iPhone. I worked as a corporate production cameraman and we do not always get the "better mousetrap" right away. gotta sell product down the line...there was a time when Ford would develop a better system and actually offer mid-year changes. today it's based on 3-4 year production windows. I know it's economics but...? Dman
 

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Blue_Thunder wrote:
"I really like this post. Too many people have that craving to get the latest and greatest all the time and while that's great for the dealerships and car manufacturers, it can really dent your personal finances."

I really like his message. It can cost you if you drive the car you want. It can save you money if you want the car you drive. I had it my mind to trade my S197 and go S550 GT PP, with a dose of Steeda. It was like driving a dog you love to the pound and saying good bye. I couldn't do it. This tortures the point here in the discussion between keep the 15/16/17 S550s or buy the '18, but just because they make something better does not make what you drive any less valuable.
If somebody offered $40K for the '07 GT, I would have to think about it. I still want that Mustang.
07GT_woods.JPG
 
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Blue_Thunder wrote:
"I really like this post. Too many people have that craving to get the latest and greatest all the time and while that's great for the dealerships and car manufacturers, it can really dent your personal finances."

I really like his message. It can cost you if you drive the car you want. It can save you money if you want the car you drive. I had it my mind to trade my S197 and go S550 GT PP, with a dose of Steeda. It was like driving a dog you love to the pound and saying good bye. I couldn't do it. This tortures the point here in the discussion between keep the 15/16/17 S550s or buy the '18, but just because they make something better does not make what you drive any less valuable.
If somebody offered $40K for the '07 GT, I would have to think about it. I still want that Mustang.
07GT_woods.JPG
I really like your '07! Beautiful!
 

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I have to admit they put me in the ether cloud at the dealership. And the $8k off the window sticker was pretty hard to pass up. I just was expecting more positive changes and it just seems like the same old car. I wish I would have at least gotten the digital dash now. That would have been nice.
 

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Blue_Thunder wrote:
"I really like this post. Too many people have that craving to get the latest and greatest all the time and while that's great for the dealerships and car manufacturers, it can really dent your personal finances."

I really like his message. It can cost you if you drive the car you want. It can save you money if you want the car you drive. I had it my mind to trade my S197 and go S550 GT PP, with a dose of Steeda. It was like driving a dog you love to the pound and saying good bye. I couldn't do it. This tortures the point here in the discussion between keep the 15/16/17 S550s or buy the '18, but just because they make something better does not make what you drive any less valuable.
If somebody offered $40K for the '07 GT, I would have to think about it. I still want that Mustang.
07GT_woods.JPG
that's why we have classic cars still around...my dog/pony is a '98 Roush Cobra. to some, no biggie. to me, still love long walks with my "dog". Dman
 

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I have to admit they put me in the ether cloud at the dealership. And the $8k off the window sticker was pretty hard to pass up. I just was expecting more positive changes and it just seems like the same old car. I wish I would have at least gotten the digital dash now. That would have been nice.
Well, at the same time, now that you are where you are, my advice is don't think of your car as the "car that did not give you as much of a bump from the old one as you wanted". It is yours now, love it for what it is. You can't change the past, and focusing on it will continue to drive you crazy. Leave the past in the past, just move on with your new, awesome car and carry the lesson forward to your future decisions. I have to live the lessons that I teach my kids, you can make mistakes, that is part of being human, but your job is to take something from that mistake that will make yourself better in the future. You can only control that which is in your control going forward.

Anyhow, enough of that. Back to the timeless discussion of MUSTANG IS AWESOME, and CAMARO SUX!!! :rockon:
 

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that's why we have classic cars still around...my dog/pony is a '98 Roush Cobra. to some, no biggie. to me, still love long walks with my "dog". Dman
I must be getting older when I see this comment and say "'98 Cobra is not a classic! Wait, it is 20 YEARS OLD!?!?! I guess it is..." I still always see the "classics" as the '70 and older muscle cars that were classics when I was growing up.
 

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I have to admit they put me in the ether cloud at the dealership. And the $8k off the window sticker was pretty hard to pass up. I just was expecting more positive changes and it just seems like the same old car. I wish I would have at least gotten the digital dash now. That would have been nice.
The newness of the dash would have gotten old too. But look at it in a positive light:

1. You have direct-injection now. That would have been cost prohibitive to put on your old car.
2. I'm sure you have a lower mileage car than what you had
3. Even though it feels similar, you loved the car you had so you should love this one as well
4. You do have the latest and greatest for now

So it's not all bad. :beer:

I must be getting older when I see this comment and say "'98 Cobra is not a classic! Wait, it is 20 YEARS OLD!?!?! I guess it is..." I still always see the "classics" as the '70 and older muscle cars that were classics when I was growing up.
Yeah, tell me about it. I can remember standing under the Ford dealer's special tent where they had all their new 2003 and 2004 Cobras sitting for sale. I bought my 10th Anniversary there and it seems like yesterday. I can not believe that was 14 YEARS ago.

I am so old. :crying:
 

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The newness of the dash would have gotten old too. But look at it in a positive light:

1. You have direct-injection now. That would have been cost prohibitive to put on your old car.
2. I'm sure you have a lower mileage car than what you had
3. Even though it feels similar, you loved the car you had so you should love this one as well
4. You do have the latest and greatest for now

So it's not all bad. :beer:



Yeah, tell me about it. I can remember standing under the Ford dealer's special tent where they had all their new 2003 and 2004 Cobras sitting for sale. I bought my 10th Anniversary there and it seems like yesterday. I can not believe that was 14 YEARS ago.

I am so old. :crying:
It is all relative, I can remember drooling over the new 1986 Mustang and Thunderbird Turbo Coupes when I was growing up... so there :) Others on here would talk about the new 64 Mustangs that they drooled over...
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