My oil change at Dundee Ford (metro Chicago) was $110.66 on May 3, 2018. Your generalization on cost is misquoted. I invite anyone in the area to come on down for an oil change. They are great guys.
Your price is not the average...
Yeah, ok. I got shorted by several qts.... haha!
You laugh.. it has happened. Forum search
You accused me of misquoting and generalizations.. so that’s not all you were saying.
Flat Rock is one of the worst Ford plants. I was happy to have ample time in Dearborn Truck Plant and Kansas City Assembly Plant to form a distinct comparison. Most of these issues can be traced to a UAW local that is extremely rigid in what they won't do, and a Chief Engineer/Program Manager and plant manager that didn't have the guts to push them. So very many concessions on GD&T were made for that plant that could and would have made the Mustang better. The subframe bushing design with respect to its locating method to the body is the most glaring. Some of it was sloppy design and design controls.Some of you guys crack me up. Care to know what $67,000 gets you at a Porsche dealership? A base, 4-cylinder 718 Cayman/Boxster with some options. Not even a Cayman/Boxster S. Forget about a Boxster/Cayman GTS, or even a base, no-options 911. 911GT3? Please. I'll take two GT350's and still have money left over for a few track days, thanks.
At the end of the day, every GT350 rolls down the same assembly line as a $25k EcoBoost Mustang. Why in the world would anyone reasonably expect it to have build quality or paint quality similar at all to a $100k+ Porsche?
...and FWIW, yes, I have owned--and still own--vehicles that don't rattle and do have great paint. (My Porsche isn't one of them.) And none of them does what my GT350 does, anywhere near as well as my GT350 does it. Nor would I expect them to. :cheers:
My point is it’s not just ford, it’s how the system works. The dealership and the mfg make the most money, and the person tasked with all the responsibility makes the least, yet the expectation from all parties is that the person doing the work will give it the white glove treatment. The difference here is that (as you said, it’s a ford!) brand P customers have that same expectation, and have no problem paying for it without knowing if it actually any different.
Oil disagreements aside. If you manufactured a product then supplied and maintained that product through a shoddy distribution network the problem is your distribution strategy.
The UAW has taken something that Henry Ford intended to be the good of the industry and turned it into a leach and a POS of a situation.
they are a lot lighter :
gold dust in the motor oil makes them run much better
