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Sorry victory-rc but it looks you misunderstood my comment and didn’t get my point. Let me clear myself:

The OP posted a picture (which I replied to) of the “numbers” for the 2019 Camaro SS. Right at the bottom it says “target 1/4 mile: 11.50 seconds”. What I said it’s that IS NOT POSSIBLE that a 485HP/480lb-ft Camaro will make ZL1 times, because basically 11.4s it’s what the ZL1 does with 650HP/650lb-ft, same 10speed auto, better tires and some other goodies.
We Will have to wait for 2019 I guess... I'm going to enjoy 2018 first.
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I don't agree. ... A 2018 Corvette 7 speed auto and a 2018 mustang 10 speed auto both run about 12.0 in the quarter mile.
For one it's an 8-speed Auto. At least get your facts straight. You are one of the guys who give Mustang fans a bad name.
 

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For one it's an 8-speed Auto. At least get your facts straight. You are one of the guys who give Mustang fans a bad name.
It's a seven speed manual and an eight speed automatic... And you certainly make Corvette owners look bad. ... Regardless you still can except the 18 Mustang is as fast as a Corvette 10 posts later.
 

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For one it's an 8-speed Auto. At least get your facts straight. You are one of the guys who give Mustang fans a bad name.
here Is your precious Corvette... No problem for the 18'mustang GT automatic.
 

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here Is your precious Corvette... No problem for the 18'mustang GT automatic.
Once again buddy it has everything to do with time of the year track prep and weather conditions. Do I need to link you that Edmonds video showing the 10 speed Auto doing the quarter mile in 12.6? It runs much slower than the 12 you see because it was done in warm weather on the streets and not in cold weather in the Northeast on a perfectly prepped track.
 

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Once again buddy it has everything to do with time of the year track prep and weather conditions.
LOL. Guess the dodge girl excuses are carrying over to the chevy crowd now.
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Once again buddy it has everything to do with time of the year track prep and weather conditions. Do I need to link you that Edmonds video showing the 10 speed Auto doing the quarter mile in 12.6? It runs much slower than the 12 you see because it was done in warm weather on the streets and not in cold weather in the Northeast on a perfectly prepped track.
To be fair, that Edmunds run was done without Magneride- which is a requirement to get the sub 12 1/4 times.

There's already been quite a few examples of 10a PP w/ MR breaking 12 seconds.
I have no idea how fast the base Corvette is, but based on the above video it looks like a loaded 2018 Mustang is at least going to be neck and neck with a base model Vette.
 

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To be fair, that Edmunds run was done without Magneride- which is a requirement to get the sub 12 1/4 times.

There's already been quite a few examples of 10a PP w/ MR breaking 12 seconds.
I have no idea how fast the base Corvette is, but based on the above video it looks like a loaded 2018 Mustang is at least going to be neck and neck with a base model Vette.
Theres just soo many variables, you cant just take a time and think that its going to be repeatable. Like I can cherry pick this video:

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And claim the C7 is a 11.7 car all day! If you look closer that time was done on a prepped track in -2000 DA

But people on here see one time done in the best possible conditions and think they can repeat that whenever/wherever they want. Its just not the case.
 

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Excuses... Its called physics. Educate yourself please.
No, it's called variables. Physics doesn't miraculously change there guy.
Anyways heres my buddies F/I vette.. I gap him all the time, street, 1/4 mile, road course (yah he's a great driver), with my junk (see sig).
 

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No, it's called variables. Physics doesn't miraculously change there guy.
Anyways heres my buddies F/I vette.. I gap him all the time, street, 1/4 mile, road course (yah he's a great driver), with my junk (see sig).
What does this have to do with anything?
 

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Theres just soo many variables, you cant just take a time and think that its going to be repeatable. Like I can cherry pick this video:



And claim the C7 is a 11.7 car all day! If you look closer that time was done on a prepped track in -2000 DA

But people on here see one time done in the best possible conditions and think they can repeat that whenever/wherever they want. Its just not the case.
Understood and i don’t disagree. However, we should stick with facts. There’s proof of a Stock GT running multiple 1/4s sub 12 seconds. Doesn’t seem to be unrepeatable at all so far.
Who cares if it’s a prepped track? As long as we’re comparing apples to apples.
C7 ran 11.7 and loaded GTs running about a 11.8 if I remember right.
Let’s also remember we’re comparing a loaded GT to a base corvette. That doesn’t take anything away from the vettes abilities.

So it goes back to my earlier statement that so far it seems a loaded GT and base corvette are going to be somewhat comparable in a straight line.
 

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Understood and i don’t disagree. However, we should stick with facts. There’s proof of a Stock GT running multiple 1/4s sub 12 seconds. Doesn’t seem to be unrepeatable at all so far.
Who cares if it’s a prepped track? As long as we’re comparing apples to apples.
C7 ran 11.7 and loaded GTs running about a 11.8 if I remember right.
Let’s also remember we’re comparing a loaded GT to a base corvette. That doesn’t take anything away from the vettes abilities.

So it goes back to my earlier statement that so far it seems a loaded GT and base corvette are going to be somewhat comparable in a straight line.
Well the thing is.. people arent comparing apples to apples. That repeatable 12.0 was done on a prepped track in great conditions. Thats NOT repeatable on the streets.

Also this time of year 1/4 miles times and trap speeds are always inflated due to sub 40 degree temps.

That 11.8 was an incredible hero run. Heck my LS3 Corvette has had a 11.3 hero run but I dont go around saying I have an 11.3 sec car.
 

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To be fair, that Edmunds run was done without Magneride- which is a requirement to get the sub 12 1/4 times.

There's already been quite a few examples of 10a PP w/ MR breaking 12 seconds.
I have no idea how fast the base Corvette is, but based on the above video it looks like a loaded 2018 Mustang is at least going to be neck and neck with a base model Vette.
Correct me if I'm wrong but to get those 12-second times you need Magna ride the performance pack and the drag mode?

That's one expensive car if you do.
 

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Well the thing is.. people arent comparing apples to apples. That repeatable 12.0 was done on a prepped track in great conditions. Thats NOT repeatable on the streets.

Also this time of year 1/4 miles times and trap speeds are always inflated due to sub 40 degree temps.

That 11.8 was an incredible hero run. Heck my LS3 Corvette has had a 11.3 hero run but I dont go around saying I have an 11.3 sec car.
How can you say it's a hero run when he drove from the dealership to the drag strip and did it 3 times in a row?

Of course it's not doable on the streets. Who said it is? Is the 11.7 with the Vette doable on the streets?
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