10MAY17

[btown93]

Yup. Points for paying attention in class!:cheers:

If only I referenced that article instead of the performance parts website :lol::doh:

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[Epiphany]

This definitely gets confusing. At the parts website you'll see aluminum GT500 blocks were cast by Honsel in Germany but if you look at the "5.8L Mustang Shelby GT500 Aluminum Cylinder Block and Head Changing Kit" the country of origin now becomes the US.

The 5.4 GT500 blocks were cast in Windsor, Ontario but once an assembled by the Romeo Niche line in shortblock format the country of origin becomes the US.

The 5.0L blocks are cast at Windsor but the "5.0L Coyote Aluminum Performance Block" is done in Mexico.

Crazy.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Gotta ask perhaps a stupid question. While no crack is nice to see even those that have nothing to do with low riding pants, how critical is this location? As long as this doesn't spread through to the other side, will it necessarily be catastrophic?

In my opinion very critical. the crack is in close proximity to the oil pan/crank and a mounting hole for the transmission. The vibration this motor creates is insane. There is now a failure that will create stress points elsewhere. Continued vibrations will only make it worse if not at the site of the crack then somewhere else.

 

[HISSMAN]

IMO, there is no where on an aluminum block where a crack is in an area that is still safe for operation.

 

[M5944]

I just checked mine and I didn't find any cracks. I hope ford finds a way to make it right. :frusty:

 

[PencilGeek]

I believe "porosity" is the name of flaw where gas or other bubbles are present during the casting, creating a void in the material.

 

[Ctease]

Sorry to hear about this new issue. No excuse for this manufacturing defect.

Wonder how much x-ray would add to the cost of each engine. Seems like on a mass scale it would be pretty reasonable, cheaper than Ferrari of course.

This definitely gets confusing. At the parts website you'll see aluminum GT500 blocks were cast by Honsel in Germany but if you look at the "5.8L Mustang Shelby GT500 Aluminum Cylinder Block and Head Changing Kit" the country of origin now becomes the US.

The 5.4 GT500 blocks were cast in Windsor, Ontario but once an assembled by the Romeo Niche line in shortblock format the country of origin becomes the US.

The 5.0L blocks are cast at Windsor but the "5.0L Coyote Aluminum Performance Block" is done in Mexico.

Crazy.

Seems like Ford confused themselves and forgot the basics.

Someone asked about Voodoo & Coyote blocks. The '18 Coyote moves closer to Voodoo with extra bracing and material.

 

[Zitrosounds]

I just checked mine and I didn't find any cracks. I hope ford finds a way to make it right. :frusty:

I want to be clear that my initial post was not intended to scare anyone into thinking there is some sort of systematic failure. Rather, I am passing information along as to vent my frustrations with the community. The odds of a casting failure, crack in the same area minuscule. As a combat veteran I always expected the worst and hoped for the best. My wife works hard to help me be more optimistic. I believe Ford will do right by me one way or another.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Sorry to hear about this new issue. No excuse for this manufacturing defect.

Wonder how much x-ray would add to the cost of each engine. Seems like on a mass scale it would be pretty reasonable, cheaper than Ferrari of course.



Seems like Ford confused themselves and forgot the basics.

Someone asked about Voodoo & Coyote blocks. The '18 Coyote moves closer to Voodoo with extra bracing and material.

Sometimes their are quality escapes. I think the blocks are NDI'ed (non-destructive inspection or testing) once cast. At least I hope they are.

 

[Offboost]

I think the dealer put the engine on a stand and did not do it correctly and the weight of the assembly created this issue I do not think this a ford issue but a dealer issue when the engine was swapped.

 

[Zitrosounds]

I think the dealer put the engine on a stand and did not do it correctly and the weight of the assembly created this issue I do not think this a ford issue but a dealer issue when the engine was swapped.

I documented the installation and it was done per the maintenance instructions.

 

[machsmith]

Porosity...sheez... hope they get you fixed up. Sad thing is, a lot of ours are probably in the same condition.

 

[Offboost]

I documented the installation and it was done per the maintenance instructions.

Was the engine bolted to a stand? and was it a specific stand for this engine or a universal stand. I have seen similar issues when engines are rotated on the stand and the improper mounting holes in the block were used.

Some later model engines are supported on the engine mount pads instead of the bell housing area.

I just attached a pictures from Tony Js turbo build and outlined the area I think you are showing and you can see there is not a lot of strength in this area if you hung the engine on a stand and turned it upside down or sideways.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Was the engine bolted to a stand? and was it a specific stand for this engine or a universal stand. I have seen similar issues when engines are rotated on the stand and the improper mounting holes in the block were used.

Some later model engines are supported on the engine mount pads instead of the bell housing area.

I'll put it to you it to you this way. The BRAND NEW 25k engine came on an old wooden pallet. Yup! Just laying there. Did the tech install it incorrectly? I assure you he did not. Could the engine have been damaged by the tech accidentally? Maybe. Did the engine get damaged during transport? More likely. Is it a casting issue? Strong possibility.

 

[Offboost]

I'll put it to you it to you this way. The BRAND NEW 25k engine came on an old wooden pallet. Yup! Just laying there. Did the tech install it incorrectly I assure you he did not. Could the engine have been damaged by the tech accidentally? Maybe. Did the engine get damaged during transport? More likely. Is it a casting issue? Strong possibility.

Ok I get your point! I just do not think this issue is normal and feel for you and know that this sucks big time too need another engine. I know you will get rid of the car as a lemon rightfully so! But I still believe this is a isolated incident but that does not help you in any case.

I wish you the best in getting this resolved quickly with Ford.

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