February 2017 Mustang Sales

[EcoVert]

gm pony car love continues, well at least its getting love from some were but not from the buying public

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[Dudie7]

That goes to show you that regardless of performance, consumers are NOT cross-shopping the Camaro with anything but it's direct competitors. The performance chops of the Camaro are without a doubt notable, however, consumers are not opting for the Camaro over an BMW M product or the like, as GM likely hoped they would.

The Mustang added customers by going down market, and the Camaro attempted to go up market. It begs the question if this age of "track-focused" muscle cars is truly what people want. If it isn't the Mustang is the clear choice as it is sporty and comfortable while the Challenger is comfortable, and the Camaro is simply sporty.

Interesting times we live in indeed.

I think Ford (and even FCA) has the formula right. If you want a track-focused muscle car, you can buy one...but don't stray too far from the original formula with the base unit. By trying to make a base SS a world beater, they had to raise the price on the thing. I think it's obvious that this strategy failed...especially if all you want is a V8 muscle car and Ford and Chrysler offers them for 3-4k less than a 1SS. They took the risk and I think now it's easy to see that it has backfired.

 

[Rinzler]

I think Ford (and even FCA) has the formula right. If you want a track-focused muscle car, you can buy one...but don't stray too far from the original formula with the base unit. By trying to make a base SS a world beater, they had to raise the price on the thing. I think it's obvious that this strategy failed...especially if all you want is a V8 muscle car and Ford and Chrysler offers them for 3-4k less than a 1SS. They took the risk and I think now it's easy to see that it has backfired.

Not only that, I feel like GM has been playing to the automobile magazines rather than listening to their buyers. You can see it in their advertisements, you can see it in their products. These products are created to perform well at testing rather than to inspire someone to go out and make one of the biggest purchases of their life.

Although I believe the Challenger evokes the most emotion, the Mustang still looks like a muscle car. It's still a grand tourer. It's still got all the sport it needs without any of the attitude it doesn't. It's not trying to ace all the tests, it wants to be good at what it's intended to do.

I do see, however, Ford getting frustrated in losing comparisons all the time. I.E. 2018 GT. Personally, I'd like more of a differentiation between the base GT and the performance pack. I think their starting to do that with the MagneRide. Give everyone what they want without losing the spirit of the car. It's a impossibly tough task honestly.

 

[Gigantor]

wrong! the boss had 444hp

Huh? The Boss 302 "G Code" engine was rated at 290 hp

 

[Bullitt]

Everyone is so busy talking about the Camaro that everyone is ignoring the amazing fact that the Mustang had one of it's best sales months in a while, selling as many as they did in the middle of summer. And this happened right in the dead of winter, a month after a refreshed 2018 Mustang was revealed. Either a lot of people had knee-jerk negative reactions to 2018 styling and rushed out to get a 2017, or people just didn't care. Either way, I'm shocked the Mustang numbers are as high as they are this month.

 

[EcoVert]

I think Ford (and even FCA) has the formula right. If you want a track-focused muscle car, you can buy one...but don't stray too far from the original formula with the base unit. By trying to make a base SS a world beater, they had to raise the price on the thing. I think it's obvious that this strategy failed...especially if all you want is a V8 muscle car and Ford and Chrysler offers them for 3-4k less than a 1SS. They took the risk and I think now it's easy to see that it has backfired.

Not only that, I feel like GM has been playing to the automobile magazines rather than listening to their buyers. You can see it in their advertisements, you can see it in their products. These products are created to perform well at testing rather than to inspire someone to go out and make one of the biggest purchases of their life.

Although I believe the Challenger evokes the most emotion, the Mustang still looks like a muscle car. It's still a grand tourer. It's still got all the sport it needs without any of the attitude it doesn't. It's not trying to ace all the tests, it wants to be good at what it's intended to do.

I do see, however, Ford getting frustrated in losing comparisons all the time. I.E. 2018 GT. Personally, I'd like more of a differentiation between the base GT and the performance pack. I think their starting to do that with the MagneRide. Give everyone what they want without losing the spirit of the car. It's a impossibly tough task honestly.

Your both correct last year gm openly stated that it was raising the price of all its vehicles to make bigger profits and I think that they thought with the 16 camaro they'd have a repeat of the 2010 come back so the raised it the most, man did they fool themselves. The amount of cash off to sell them tells you gm had planned to reap huge profits on them.

 

[EcoVert]

Everyone is so busy talking about the Camaro that everyone is ignoring the amazing fact that the Mustang had one of it's best sales months in a while, selling as many as they did in the middle of summer. And this happened right in the dead of winter, a month after a refreshed 2018 Mustang was revealed. Either a lot of people had knee-jerk negative reactions to 2018 styling and rushed out to get a 2017, or people just didn't care. Either way, I'm shocked the Mustang numbers are as high as they are this month.

I know what you mean I have to quite often back up and check to see which forum I'm on.

 

[Spartan]

Having owned all 3 cars within the last 12 months I really think you need to go drive all 3 before shitting on them.

It is not for everyone but I actually liked the bunker feeling that my Camaro had. I think Mustang looks better compared to both but Camaro and Mustang does not even come close to the Chally from a DD comfort level. The amount of space you have in the Challenger is just crazy compared to both Camaro and Mustang. You can actually fit normal size people in the back seats which is also a huge + if this is going to be your only car and not just a weekend toy.

Yah at the auto show, sat in the Challenger and man it's like a different experience. Will be interesting to see which way they go with their refresh in 2 years. Will they modernize the design at all/remove all that weight/etc.

 

[tritus]

Yah at the auto show, sat in the Challenger and man it's like a different experience. Will be interesting to see which way they go with their refresh in 2 years. Will they modernize the design at all/remove all that weight/etc.

So far they keep throwing more power at it lol. I don't see them moving away from the retro look given if they choose to they also have to invest in making the car more than just a fast cruiser and get lost in the #'s game.

 

[Spartan]

So far they keep throwing more power at it lol. I don't see them moving away from the retro look given if they choose to they also have to invest in making the car more than just a fast cruiser and get lost in the #'s game.

I think the new Jeep Wrangler will give us an idea of where the Challenger goes. They don't want to change the Jeep that much BUT Jeep knows they have to modernize it, tech, weight, looks, etc. The dealer leaked lineup shows that they kept the looks but modernized the lights, fascias, etc.

http://www.inautonews.com/wp-conten...and-maybe-even-the-2018-Wrangler-1024x312.jpg

 

[Gigantor]

 

[Rebellion]

So far they keep throwing more power at it lol. I don't see them moving away from the retro look given if they choose to they also have to invest in making the car more than just a fast cruiser and get lost in the #'s game.

If the rumors are true and the next Challenger is Giulia based, it would be NICE!

 

[1320']

If the rumors are true and the next Challenger is Giulia based, it would be NICE!

Hopefully FCA makes it that long.

 

[tritus]

Hopefully FCA makes it that long.

They are doing a good job creating hype around their products and putting stupid high #'s out there. Too bad they can't take it to the bottom line.

 

[40calcobra]

Huh? The Boss 302 "G Code" engine was rated at 290 hp

2012 boss or older ?

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