Ford Racing ProCal Tune

[jbailer]

I checked with a local garage and they quoted 270 dollars just for the tune and that is a flat fee. Not sure how much it would cost with installing the intake. Better not be more than an hour. So hopefully 500 dollars for parts and 500 for installation after tax.

Go to a different "garage". $270 for 16 minutes work is stupid only if you pay it. The intake is definitely less than 1 hour. If you have them do everything, there's no way they should be charging you more than 2 hours labor.

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[lizardrko]

I checked with a local garage and they quoted 270 dollars just for the tune and that is a flat fee. Not sure how much it would cost with installing the intake. Better not be more than an hour. So hopefully 500 dollars for parts and 500 for installation after tax.

U should be paying no more than $270 total. The tune takes 15 minutes to install with the click of a button. The intake takes about 1.5-2 hours.

 

[jbailer]

U should be paying no more than $270 total. The tune takes 15 minutes to install with the click of a button. The intake takes about 1.5-2 hours.

The intake took me 40 minutes taking my time and I'm not a mechanic.

 

[lizardrko]

The intake took me 40 minutes taking my time and I'm not a mechanic.

Okay yeah I was being nice lol

 

[Cobra Jet]

Went and spoke with my local dealer, specifically the main ford racing service mechanic there. He had not seen the kit yet. Explained my credentials to him, showed him the instructions that came with the kit, and verbally explained what all was involved with the installation.

He and I came to an understanding, I took his name, and he basically said go home and install it myself. So I did...

Air intake / filter took about a hour... gotta say the crappy photocopied pics combined with the half ass instructions are not the best in the world... also the fitment of the new "horn" that you have to cut slightly leaves much to be desired. But mostly it is pretty dang easy.

Logged into the ford performance site, registered, dloaded the procal program, went outside and connected my laptop to the obd II / usb connector, followed the instructions, and completed the tune myself.

Appears to be a read, write, and delete portion. Overall probably took 20ish minutes.

During that time every friggin warning light on the cluster (and others I have not seen) lit up and dinged at me. Once procal gave me the all good, turned the car off (from acc mode) , fired it back up and went for a drive.

(just fyi my car has never seen anything but 91+ octane since the day I purchased it brand new, and I ALWAYS drive in track mode with advancetrac off)

Immediate impressions: First few pulls in 2nd thru 4th at 50-75% throttle you can tell the car is struggling ....

The fake sound pumped thru the speakers is most definitely now disabled. Switching from normal to track mode no longer creates the audible low pitched bs that used to be apparent while at idle.

After putting 30 or so miles on the car in traffic and open roads first thing that jumps out is the low end torque gains in 2nd and 3rd. Feels MUCH MUCH better.

Pre tune I always noticed there seem to be a "dead spot" at light throttle as the car approached boost....pre tune you could goose it slighly when at 0 psi and it would not go into boost unless you gave it more throttle than seemed normal.

Now when reaching 0 psi, the slightest touch of the throttle and the boost begins to build as I would expect it to.

Car is already pulling MUCH better through the powerband, and cleanly above 5k instead of falling on its ass like it used to.

More impressions to come, made 2 trips of 40 miles in it so far, and have not really wrung the car out through the gears like I normally do yet.

Aaron,

Just curious - since you did the complete install and tune update yourself - is the warranty in place - or is it only applicable IF a Ford Service Center did the same A-Z install procedure?

I already know about the tune 3/36 warranty being tied to the vehicle 3/36 - just wondering if doing the same at home install as you did, does it "void" the offered warranty.

 

[jbailer]

Aaron,

Just curious - since you did the complete install and tune update yourself - is the warranty in place - or is it only applicable IF a Ford Service Center did the same A-Z install procedure?

I already know about the tune 3/36 warranty being tied to the vehicle 3/36 - just wondering if doing the same at home install as you did, does it "void" the offered warranty.

I forget the exact wording but your answer is right in the FP warranty. It specifically says it must be installed by an authorized Ford Agent or ASE technician. When you submit the paperwork for the warranty, they want a copy of the invoice from the shop that did the install.

 

[jtmat]

Aaron,

Just curious - since you did the complete install and tune update yourself - is the warranty in place - or is it only applicable IF a Ford Service Center did the same A-Z install procedure?

I already know about the tune 3/36 warranty being tied to the vehicle 3/36 - just wondering if doing the same at home install as you did, does it "void" the offered warranty.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/warranty/include/pdf/Select_Parts_Warranty_Statement_2015.pdf

Really clear....

Warranty Registration: This Limited Warranty requires that parts must be purchased from an authorized Ford
Performance Distributor and installed by an authorized Ford or Lincoln Dealer, Shelby American, Inc., mountune
LLC or an automotive service technician certified by the Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE). Proof
of purchase is required for submission of warranty claims. Registration for this warranty must be submitted
through the Ford Performance Call Center at (800) 367-3788 or [email protected] with the vehicle
identification number (VIN), part installation repair order and date, Ford Performance part number, and owner
contact information.

 

[Regs]

I was checking out the Bosch tune that offers 45 HP or at least "up to 45" and is basically the same 3 year warranty but they charge 500 dollars additionally for the protection. Makes the FP tune more of a bargain.

Thanks for the heads up on the cost estimates. The garage says I have to take the car in with the parts for them to see what they have to do. I would expect nothing more than 300-400 dollars. These are the guys that charged me 280 for a new car battery in my old Mazda.

 

[lizardrko]

I was checking out the Bosch tune that offers 45 HP or at least "up to 45" and is basically the same 3 year warranty but they charge 500 dollars additionally for the protection. Makes the FP tune more of a bargain.

Thanks for the heads up on the cost estimates. The garage says I have to take the car in with the parts for them to see what they have to do. I would expect nothing more than 300-400 dollars. These are the guys that charged me 280 for a new car battery in my old Mazda.

Then why go back to this "garage" and go to a good shop haha with actual good prices. U should be paying less than $300, probably around $250-$270. Anything more is a rip off.

 

[Regs]

Then why go back to this "garage" and go to a good shop haha with actual good prices. U should be paying less than $300, probably around $250-$270. Anything more is a rip off.

That's the issue with this tune is that although the tune shops listed on ford performance site are ridiculous, the local garages treat this as non-customary work and won't give me a realistic quote until I bring it in. At least with customary work, I can pick up the phone and shop around.

 

[jbailer]

That's the issue with this tune is that although the tune shops listed on ford performance site are ridiculous, the local garages treat this as non-customary work and won't give me a realistic quote until I bring it in. At least with customary work, I can pick up the phone and shop around.

It might help if you describe it to them. I would say this:

Replacing the intake box, not even the intake tube.

Flashing in the tune using ProCal software on a laptop. Verified at 16 minutes.

You might even ask them if they are ok with you replacing the air box and then they can flash in the tune. That would eliminate the bulk of the time required. You should be able to find a shop around you that does performance work. They will be generally familiar with what is required. However, Ford Performance using the computer to flash the tune instead of the handheld tuner is new. This is the first they've used it so it will be new to tuners also. You could always provide them the instructions, that should give them an idea of the time required. That and tell them that people have done it timed the flash and it took 16 minutes.

 

[jbailer]

Intake

I really want to go back to the stock airbox while running the FP Tune. This is the question I asked Ford Performance.

Since the Ecoboost uses a MAP sensor rather than a MAF, would it be ok to put the stock airbox or an aftermarket like the AirAid intake in in place of the modified GT350 intake that came with the kit? For cars that use a MAP to measure available air for mixture, the intake doesn't impact the tune. I want to make sure if I change the intake, it will still be covered under warranty.

I don't care for all the noise the open air box makes. Also, it doesn't fit correctly. The edge of the bucket for the CAI goes further over towards the passenger's side. This makes it so the intake tube is stressed when put on the adapter. Not a big deal, won't cause a problem, it just shouldn't be stressed. Also, the actual air inlet is smaller than the stock opening. Before my tuner put in the new intake, we compared the 2. I also didn't like the way the rubber seal on that inlet had to be cut. It was very obvious it was re-purposed and didn't fit right. That inlet adapter should have been made to fit the EcoBoost, especially since it was a snap on extra piece.​

I just got this reply today.

Sorry for delay, yes, engineer stated it is perfectly ok to change out the air intake.​

 

[speedfrk]

I really want to go back to the stock airbox while running the FP Tune. This is the question I asked Ford Performance.

Since the Ecoboost uses a MAP sensor rather than a MAF, would it be ok to put the stock airbox or an aftermarket like the AirAid intake in in place of the modified GT350 intake that came with the kit? For cars that use a MAP to measure available air for mixture, the intake doesn't impact the tune. I want to make sure if I change the intake, it will still be covered under warranty.

I don't care for all the noise the open air box makes. Also, it doesn't fit correctly. The edge of the bucket for the CAI goes further over towards the passenger's side. This makes it so the intake tube is stressed when put on the adapter. Not a big deal, won't cause a problem, it just shouldn't be stressed. Also, the actual air inlet is smaller than the stock opening. Before my tuner put in the new intake, we compared the 2. I also didn't like the way the rubber seal on that inlet had to be cut. It was very obvious it was re-purposed and didn't fit right. That inlet adapter should have been made to fit the EcoBoost, especially since it was a snap on extra piece.​

I just got this reply today.

Sorry for delay, yes, engineer stated it is perfectly ok to change out the air intake.​

Does the FP intake bolt onto the GT? If I get the kit, I'm keeping the stock airbox and selling the intake.

 

[jbailer]

Does the FP intake bolt onto the GT? If I get the kit, I'm keeping the stock airbox and selling the intake.

I'm not really sure what the intake tube is meant for. That may be a question for FP. Could be for the 350 or the GT. The intake tube that comes with the kit even has the MAF sensor that people are selling on ebay for $30 - $45.

 

[Regs]

You saying all I have to do now is get a garage to flash my car for a warranty? Sheesh

If that is the case I will just drop in a dry air filter and have my local garage flash it. Not sure how you submit that for warranty. Can you be the guinea pig?

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