GT350 Wheel Hop

[ThreeFiveO]

Who is ignoring the merits of what Ford have done? Who said they only care about 0-60? Who is saying they are focusing solely on drag racing? Nobody.

Just because you buy a track oriented vehicle, doesn't mean you can't run the car from a stop to 60 every now and again just for fun. The vehicles are not one-dimensional... Based on your logic, nobody owning a GT500 should ever ask any questions about reducing body roll in the corners because, after all, that car is only made for the drag strip right?

Have you read the bolt on sections of this forum? 1000hp this and 700hp that?
It looks to me a lot of people are concerned about 0-60. What good is 700-1000 hp on a road course?

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[Minn19]

If you're spending that much money on a GT350 one would think that wheel hop should be nonexistent. Wouldn't you agree??

No, I wouldn't agree. And while 60k is a lot of money......it isn't that much when it comes to performance/sports cars relatively speaking. No car is perfect, especially a 60ish k one.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

Have you read the bolt on sections of this forum? 1000hp this and 700hp that?
It looks to me a lot of people are concerned about 0-60. What good is 700-1000 hp on a road course?

Yes I've seen them, but no I haven't read them as I'm not interested in a FI engine in this car. In which I agree with you, that it goes completely against what this type of car is meant for. However, what that has to do with the average guy who simply likes to floor his 350 from a stop once in a while is beyond me. Sounds like your comments should be directed at those other power threads, since they aren't really relevant here IMO.

And just an FYI and completely off topic, 700-1000hp in a road course car? Have you not heard of the P1, 918, LaFerrari, One:1? All phenomenally performing track cars with massive power.

 

[firestarter2]

No I wouldn't agree. And while 60k is a lot of money......it isn't that much when it comes to performance/sports cars relatively speaking. No car is perfect, especially a 60ish k one.

In perspective the BMW 340 would be about 60K.(Agreeing with Minn19) Cars are very expensive now.

 

[firestarter2]

Yes I've seen them, but no I haven't read them as I'm not interested in a FI engine in this car. What that has to do with the average guy who simply likes to floor his 350 from a stop once in a while is beyond me. Sounds like your comments should be directed at those other power threads, since they aren't really relevant here IMO.

And just an FYI and completely off topic, 700-1000hp in a road course car? Have you not heard of the P1, 918, LaFerrari, One:1? All phenomenally performing track cars with massive performance.

Your quoting million dollar cars.. with active aerodynamics air brakes etc.

 

[Minn19]

In perspective the BMW 340 would be about 60K.(Agreeing with Minn19) Cars are very expensive now.

You can load up Fusions and Malibus to 40k now.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

Your quoting million dollar cars.. with active aerodynamics air brakes etc.

His question was in regards to 700-1000hp cars on track. My point was that high power doesn't automatically mean it is a bad track car. I am well aware that a 1000hp GT350 will not handle the power as well as those cars I listed.

 

[earlSpilner]

Guys, there is nothing wrong with people wanting to drag race a car.

I have a car specifically designed for drag racing, and I also just picked up a PP GT that I am going to outfit with parts that cater towards better handling, including some GT350 parts on it....and I will still ride down to the drag strip every now and again to make some passes.

Anyhow, I deal with many GT350 customers. What we tend to to find that works the best, for the price and simplicity, is this.

CB005 Cradle Bushing Lockout Kit
BK055 Control Arm Bearing Upgrade
Ford Racing Toe Knuckle Bearings
TCA045 Bearing/Bearing Vertical Links

These parts are easy to install for the most part, and help the car is EVERY way, and really improve handling characteristics.

If I was going to do one of them only - personally, on a GT350, I would do the BK055.

Happy Modding!

Thanks BMR tech for the response. Looking for upgrading next season I was wondering what the forum members would think of this setup. My goals are as follows:

1) Stop the violent wheel hop I experience on the drag track
2) Maintain and improve the great track handling (which I also do)
3) Be able to handle future power increasing mods whatever they may be
4) Not make handling worse on the street (NHV not an issue)

thoughts?

Any downsides or overkill in this setup?

BK055 2015 - 2016 Mustang Bearing kit, lower control arm, rear
$269.95 $269.95

CB005 2015 - 2016 Mustang Cradle Bushing Lockout Kit
Color: Black Hammertone
$199.95 $199.95

BK054 2015 - 2016 Mustang Bushing Kit, Differential Lockout
$79.95 $79.95

TCA045 2015 - 2016 Mustang Vertical Link, Rear Lower Control Arms, Spherical
$269.95 $269.95

TR005 2015 - 2016 Mustang Toe rods, rear, On-Car adjustable, rod ends
Color: Red

 

[BMR Tech]

Thanks BMR tech for the response. Looking for upgrading next season I was wondering what the forum members would think of this setup. My goals are as follows:

1) Stop the violent wheel hop I experience on the drag track
2) Maintain and improve the great track handling (which I also do)
3) Be able to handle future power increasing mods whatever they may be
4) Not make handling worse on the street (NHV not an issue)

thoughts?

Any downsides or overkill in this setup?

BK055 2015 - 2016 Mustang Bearing kit, lower control arm, rear
$269.95 $269.95

CB005 2015 - 2016 Mustang Cradle Bushing Lockout Kit
Color: Black Hammertone
$199.95 $199.95

BK054 2015 - 2016 Mustang Bushing Kit, Differential Lockout
$79.95 $79.95

TCA045 2015 - 2016 Mustang Vertical Link, Rear Lower Control Arms, Spherical
$269.95 $269.95

TR005 2015 - 2016 Mustang Toe rods, rear, On-Car adjustable, rod ends
Color: Red

I love the list.

My suggestion, though, is to leave the differential mounts alone for now.

I know you said you do not mind NVH, however, the diff solutions increase NVH substantially, while also creating a weak link. We have seen a small # of issues with diff kits (everything other than a TRUE SOLID diff bushing kit)...and at this time, I have been holding off on recommending them to the average person wanting to have fun with their S550. This is also why, we have been working on our Poly Diff Insert kit for two years now...and still have not released it.

Grab the list of parts, excluding the BK054...and enjoy!

 

[earlSpilner]

I love the list.

My suggestion, though, is to leave the differential mounts alone for now.

I know you said you do not mind NVH, however, the diff solutions increase NVH substantially, while also creating a weak link. We have seen a small # of issues with diff kits (everything other than a TRUE SOLID diff bushing kit)...and at this time, I have been holding off on recommending them to the average person wanting to have fun with their S550. This is also why, we have been working on our Poly Diff Insert kit for two years now...and still have not released it.

Grab the list of parts, excluding the BK054...and enjoy!

Thanks for your feedback on BK054. I didn't realize the part may cause a weak link. My plan is to order these parts between now and February hopefully the Canadian dollar improves a bit so I am not loosing 25% on the currency difference.

 

[montreal ponies]

Thanks for your feedback on BK054. I didn't realize the part may cause a weak link. My plan is to order these parts between now and February hopefully the Canadian dollar improves a bit so I am not loosing 25% on the currency difference.

More like 36% as of today, and don't expect it to get much higher unfortunately. :(

 

[HizliBullet]

try the launch control its best

 

[nastang87xx]

You can load up Fusions and Malibus to 40k now.

I test drove a Fusion Sport. It was okay. Wasn't great wasn't awful. Transmission was awful though. So slow. At about $40K though for a sedan and all, I'd be looking very seriously at a lightly used Charger R/T Scat Pack.

 

[08fordgt]

I love the list.

My suggestion, though, is to leave the differential mounts alone for now.

I know you said you do not mind NVH, however, the diff solutions increase NVH substantially, while also creating a weak link. We have seen a small # of issues with diff kits (everything other than a TRUE SOLID diff bushing kit)...and at this time, I have been holding off on recommending them to the average person wanting to have fun with their S550. This is also why, we have been working on our Poly Diff Insert kit for two years now...and still have not released it.

Grab the list of parts, excluding the BK054...and enjoy!

Kelly, so 1. you wouldn't recommend the full poly diff kit either?http://www.bmrsuspension.com/index.cfm?page=products&productid=1504&superpro=0
2. Tell us more about this new insert kit.
and to the OP i had BMR vertical links and cradle lockout kit on my 15 GT and it knocked about 90% of the wheel hop out of the car. BMR will get you straight.

I believed it was only my diff mounts that needed to be modded after said mods to completely stop the hop. unfortunately i didn't have time to demod my GT before trading for the GT350 so i have to start over. :( But i got my car for a pretty good deal. I wasn't going to let suspension mods and a few other tastefully added things make me miss out on the deal i got.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Ohhh My!

I didn't think this question would set people off so much.

I have tracked my car on a road course and it was really fun, however there is more drag tracks around where I am. So my question about wheel hop wasn't about making a road course car a drag car as much it was not breaking shit while drag racing a road course car question.

You may not have intended your post to suggest that you might be trying to turn a road course car into a dragstrip car, but unfortunately that's the way it reads at first glance.

From a hardcore corner-carver's point of view, so few Mustangs have from the factory had any real strength as road course cars that it goes down hard to hear about one being modified for use not for where its new-found strength lies but in straight line racing - or IOW the same way most "regular GT" Mustang owners with any interest in performance tend to use their cars. It's not much different over on the Camaro side of the street when somebody talks about drag racing a 1LE or a Z/28.

Yes, I am aware that you can drag race just about anything, and at one time or another somebody probably has.

Best explanation I can come up with, no flame intended.


Norm

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