Mishimoto’s 2015+ Mustang GT Performance Intake R&D - NOW RELEASED!!

[Mishimoto]

Wow, those are crazy gains for a no-tune intake!

The production box will be plastic? Do you reuse the stock MAF?

Also, what app do you use to datalog? I have the Torque app., but I'm sure you guys are using something better.

We are happy with how the gains turned out! The production box will be a steel and powder-coated black. We will provide a slick-looking MAF housing that will be made out of a glass-reinforced plastic injected molding.

For initial data and getting a general idea of what was going on with the fuel trims, we tried out a bluetooth scanner called BlueDriver. It's really useful when gathering this type of data on the road. We don't base all of our findings solely on what is found on the app, but it does a great job giving us an idea of what we're looking for. We rely more heavily on our professional tuning software for confirmation of the data.

Great stuff! There is lot's of information in this post, much more than the typical intake manufacturer would dare to share...and it looks pretty good under the hood too.

If I wasn't waiting for this one, I would have bought some other intakes already (I haven't really found one of my liking, most of them have some sort of design compromise, IMO). I held off because this one seems to make more sense overall, for a no-tune, and with the information given it's even more convincing.

Thanks for the kind words! You'll definitely like the look of the sample production units look once they arrive at our facility.

We find that transparency is important. It's important to share the knowledge that we gain from doing the R&D on these types of products. That way, you are included in the development process every step of the way, and many find that pretty valuable.

So sit tight! The R&D is all wrapped up, so what we are working on is the production phase of this project. We plan to have this officially released to the market before the arrival of 2017; keep an eye open for the presale!

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[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

Looks really good. definitely tuned in. Will there be a tune required style eventually? I might have over looked that part.

 

[BmacIL]

Wow! Excellent gains and the detailed development is much appreciated as an engineer myself.

The significant reduction in pressure drop will obviously improve WOT performance but will also have a big impact on transient performance and response.

 

[Performance nut]

No tune intake... Nice. And that sound, dear lord it sounded angry.

So a couple of small questions:

• Will you have a sound tube delete included in this?
• Do you all see a benefit to modifying the front grill with your kit? I'm referring to something like a grill delete or Velossa ram air kit.
• Now that you are going into production, any indicators as far as cost for the kit?
• Any options (color for intake hose, powder coat on steel, etc)?

Look forward to seeing more on this

 

[Mishimoto]

Looks really good. definitely tuned in. Will there be a tune required style eventually? I might have over looked that part.

Many thanks! The idea for a tune-required version was discussed, but are going ahead with only a no-tune version. I can tell you that if there is enough interest, it's a topic we can revisit later down the road!

Wow! Excellent gains and the detailed development is much appreciated as an engineer myself.

The significant reduction in pressure drop will obviously improve WOT performance but will also have a big impact on transient performance and response.

I'm glad you appreciate the information! I agree with you, the reduction was is indeed significant, we really wanted to focus on airflow so the pressure drop on this intake is definitely going to benefit many aspects of induction.

No tune intake... Nice. And that sound, dear lord it sounded angry.

So a couple of small questions:

• Will you have a sound tube delete included in this?
• Do you all see a benefit to modifying the front grill with your kit? I'm referring to something like a grill delete or Velossa ram air kit.
• Now that you are going into production, any indicators as far as cost for the kit?
• Any options (color for intake hose, powder coat on steel, etc)?

Look forward to seeing more on this

Thanks! It really wakes up the sound of the engine doesn't it?

Great questions, we will have a sound tube delete offered along with this kit. The port will still be there for those who wish to run the tube, but we will include a block-off plate in the packaging for those who wish to run without it.

This intake design circles around bringing air in from the stock duct, so changing that could change the airflow characteristics. I would assume that there would most likely be a benefit since those types of modifications can increase airflow, but since we never tested our intake with our product, I can't say for sure.

Pricing will be revealed soon, once we are ready to get the ball rolling on the full release of this kit, this thread will be updated with that information. The airbox will be made of steel and powder-coated black, while the silicone hose will come with color options of red, black or blue. Hope this helps!

 

[Performance nut]

This intake design circles around bringing air in from the stock duct, so changing that could change the airflow characteristics. I would assume that there would most likely be a benefit since those types of modifications can increase airflow, but since we never tested our intake with our product, I can't say for sure.

Pricing will be revealed soon, once we are ready to get the ball rolling on the full release of this kit, this thread will be updated with that information. The airbox will be made of steel and powder-coated black, while the silicone hose will come with color options of red, black or blue. Hope this helps!

I assume it would be positive as well but wasn't going to assume since I'm not knowledgeable about your design. Thanks for taking a crack at answering the question

As for color, how hard would it be for an option to powder coat it ourselves? To clarify, order a raw steel airbox, separate the airbox from the rest of the kit (all plastic/rubber/etc pieces removed), powdercoat and bake the airbox in a custom color, and reassemble/install the kit. My assumption here is that it will be possible but some parts may not like being removed.

Not to say black isn't a great color under the hood. Customizing powdercoat options probably isn't a feasible business plan. But having a kit that someone can customize on their own... you might have another selling point (as if there was a shortage of these).

 

[Mishimoto]

I assume it would be positive as well but wasn't going to assume since I'm not knowledgeable about your design. Thanks for taking a crack at answering the question

As for color, how hard would it be for an option to powder coat it ourselves? To clarify, order a raw steel airbox, separate the airbox from the rest of the kit (all plastic/rubber/etc pieces removed), powdercoat and bake the airbox in a custom color, and reassemble/install the kit. My assumption here is that it will be possible but some parts may not like being removed.

Not to say black isn't a great color under the hood. Customizing powdercoat options probably isn't a feasible business plan. But having a kit that someone can customize on their own... you might have another selling point (as if there was a shortage of these).

I appreciate you asking!

In regards to the custom powder-coating, the way all of our airboxes are assembled and kitted with the black powder-coating and branded with our logo, before they are even shipped to our warehouses. So we currently don't have the option to do any full-scale production level powder-coating at our R&D facility.

We have gotten interest in doing that in the past, however, we have fully kicked off full scale production of these Mustang GT kits and the airboxes are they are being made per the usual black powder-coat as we speak, so we don't plan on offering that as an option at the moment. Trust me, it will look really good!

I can say that if there is enough interest, it's something we may be able to revisit later on down the road!

 

[4V Mayhem]

I'm guessing it must be quite difficult to make a boxed style intake with a larger diameter at the MAF.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

1) Will the existing (well, on pre-sales) intake tube be compatible with the airbox side of this intake

2) If so, will you be offering just the airbox for folks who by the intake tube

 

[Terminator2]

1) Will the existing (well, on pre-sales) intake tube be compatible with the airbox side of this intake

2) If so, will you be offering just the airbox for folks who by the intake tube

They had said the two tubes are different so no it won't work.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

They had said the two tubes are different so no it won't work.

Thanks man, I guess I missed that, still a little loopy down in Vilano, Florida.

:cheers:

 

[Coyote Red]

Matt was rough, the proto-type looks promising, I'd like to help with field testing. Still no drop=in inverted cone for the 2015-2017 S550 5.0, dang! I need sponsors for my new business.

 

[newkidnik]

Matt was rough, the proto-type looks promising, I'd like to help with field testing. Still no drop=in inverted cone for the 2015-2017 S550 5.0, dang! I need sponsors for my new business.

I can't describe to your how annoying it is there is no panel cone for the 15+ S550's. When I had a stock airbox on my '14, I ran this aFe filter:
http://afepower.com/afe-power-30-80179-magnum-flow-pro-5r-air-filter

I just purchased an AEM dry flow panel last night. I would've jumped on the aFe design if it was available. Is this what you're referring to?

 

[EricSMG]

Interesting. Two questions/comments:

1. Why a metal box? I realize that your maf housing will be plastic (good!) but the box itself will always be extremely hot - too hot to touch. Won't this affect performance, or, at least idle/initial response? You say "cuising" IATs are good but you don't say much about static. What data/experience can you share here?

I ran a metal lid/maf housing style box on my M3 that showed great gains on the dyno only to have it literally neuter the car for any type of city driving. From this, I'm a little gun-shy of anything metal in the intake stream.

2. You mention "initial" vs. "learned" gains. Your dyno shows good initial gains. But that's of no interest to me. Will you be showing the learned gains after some miles/time?

 

[BmacIL]

Interesting. Two questions/comments:

1. Why a metal box? I realize that your maf housing will be plastic (good!) but the box itself will always be extremely hot - too hot to touch. Won't this affect performance, or, at least idle/initial response? You say "cuising" IATs are good but you don't say much about static. What data/experience can you share here?

2. You mention "initial" vs. "learned" gains. Your dyno shows good initial gains. But that's of no interest to me. Will you be showing the learned gains after some miles/time?

Plastic parts in the engine bay get just as hot as metal ones, but they have much lower thermal conductivity, which is why they don't feel as hot. It's also why they take longer to heat up and cool down. The air will heat up a little going through the box, but it will spend so little time there that it'll be pretty small.

Q=hA(Tbox-Tair)

Q in units of energy/time, usually Joules/s (Watts) or BTU/s
h = heat transfer coefficient between the material and the fluid
A = Surface area of the box

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