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[gimmie11s]

Here is the quote I received:

What a joke!

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[JennyStang]

Here is the quote I received:

Wow 6k for the blower, 2k for the opg now 7k for a new engine they screwing You b.

 

[SolarFlare]

This is why it’s important for guys to have some clue on how read the basic things from a log. Timing, KR, Lambda, fuel trims, etc.

 

[Bald Menace]

$2200 to partially remove blower? hell isnt a complete blower install labor less than that at most shops?

 

[Crackerjack17]

I don't think it's a bad price, but I'm not familiar with what parts they put in that shortblock? And how long? I replaced my shortblock and it took me about a month by myself working on it after work and weekends. It's a lot of work.

 

[TripleB]

This is why I will only ever buy Whipple

 

[Nuked]

This is why it’s important for guys to have some clue on how read the basic things from a log. Timing, KR, Lambda, fuel trims, etc.

Yup, and the Livernois tuner is about as usefull as a Nintendo GameBoy. Anytime you are boosted you need something to monitor real time, not a flash and throw it in the glovebox tuner. I'm NA and I can tell if I have a bad tank of gas the first time I get into the pedal.


OP - sounds like Livernois turned off CAT protect, cats cooked themselves and caused a restriction and the missfire codes, tech runs it 120 miles beating the shit out of it and cracks the ring from cyldinder temps/pressure being sky high.

 

[Black Dog]

At end of that invoice it says "Special Customer Discount" I have a better wording. "Bend Over and Sorry No Lube" That discount would be deal if you paid that. They should cover your $7000 Has anybody else looked over your tune?

 

[TripleB]

Yup, and the Livernois tuner is about as usefull as a Nintendo GameBoy. Anytime you are boosted you need something to monitor real time, not a flash and throw it in the glovebox tuner. I'm NA and I can tell if I have a bad tank of gas the first time I get into the pedal.


OP - sounds like Livernois turned off CAT protect, cats cooked themselves and caused a restriction and the missfire codes, tech runs it 120 miles beating the shit out of it and cracks the ring from cyldinder temps/pressure being sky high.

As a FI newbie I would love some tips and tricks from you and the rest of experienced guys.

What monitoring mechanisms should I have?

How to know about bad gas? Signs... etc?

Anything else that’s good to know etc?

 

[SolarFlare]

As a FI newbie I would love some tips and tricks from you and the rest of experienced guys.

What monitoring mechanisms should I have?

How to know about bad gas? Signs... etc?

Anything else that’s good to know etc?

The Ngauge is one of the nicer setups. I know guys that use SCT with Palm Beach Dyno but use an Ngauge to monitor parameters.

 

[Ggradtech]

At end of that invoice it says "Special Customer Discount" I have a better wording. "Bend Over and Sorry No Lube" That discount would be deal if you paid that. They should cover your $7000 Has anybody else looked over your tune?

I'm probably wrong here, but if it was tuned with the LMS MyCalibrator tool can the "tune" be looked at? Can whats been written to the cars computer be seen?

 

[TripleB]

The Ngauge is one of the nicer setups. I know guys that use SCT with Palm Beach Dyno but use an Ngauge to monitor parameters.

Can I use ngauge with Whipple?

 

[GreenS550]

I'm probably wrong here, but if it was tuned with the LMS MyCalibrator tool can the "tune" be looked at? Can whats been written to the cars computer be seen?

I had the car back to LMS after the install and they drove it 120 miles and looked at the tune and said it was good except for a random rev limiter issue. It is really weird that several folks had this exact setup with zero issues.

I called other hot rod shops for opinions. They were varied and respectful. It COULD have been bad gas, incorrect ring gap that reared its head when it was boosted. Or, the tune, too.

So far LMS has been open about the issues except the tune. They are certain the tune was not the issue.

 

[GreenS550]

I also don't know if this matters, but the car definitely ran rich. When I set the dash to gauge and put up the air fuel ratio, the car never ran lean, especially under heavy throttle.

 

[GreenS550]

At end of that invoice it says "Special Customer Discount" I have a better wording. "Bend Over and Sorry No Lube" That discount would be deal if you paid that. They should cover your $7000 Has anybody else looked over your tune?

I don't know what looking over the tune means. I don't have a mechanism to datalog.

I agree that IF they caused the issue it should be the discount, not the 7K, but if it was gas or incorrect ring gap, then they are being more than fair.

The tune uses the "mycalibrator" which was made for LMS. It is proprietary I believe.

I have used their tunes on my SHO, Explorer and this Mustang when it was NA. All good. So, sorry, I just don't have that data.

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