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I ask questions directly. When I get an answer that doesn't sound right or I have something that disproves it I'm quick to say so.

Have you disproven anything? Honestly I don't think you have. Pretty sure questions were answered.

I don't know what else to say to you because no matter what I do say you'll just twist it around and then try and make me validate it in some way.



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I ask questions directly. When I get an answer that doesn't sound right or I have something that disproves it I'm quick to say so.
Just because you're yelling the loudest doesn't make you right....
 

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Until I'm proven wrong.

Whipples reasoning of the dyno as to why that particular car dynod low is incorrect. As I've personally watched a new whipple 2.9 car make about 60ft lbs more dynoing in 4th because it too was a 3.31 car.

If they stated they adjust cam timing and that was their reason. Guess what? That's quite believable.
 

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My opinion does in fact matter. I may have another 5.0 sitting here looking for a power adder. So perhaps you may want to rethink how you respond to people. I'm not baiting you to jump into an argument.

I am debating you though.
I say it doesn't matter because this conversation is at the point where you don't agree. I'm not here to make up things or give false information. We've gone out of our way to provide accurate information. I personally have tested this on 6 different Mustangs in the past 3 months. Many of our dealers/vendors have as well. This may only be true on DJ's, not sure on others as we have zero testing data on other type of dyno's. Do a search on google, I know Paul @ ID posted some great info on it awhile back.
 

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Considering I've owned four of your blowers in the past you can't write me off as a whipple hater.
 

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Until I'm proven wrong.

Whipples reasoning of the dyno as to why that particular car dynod low is incorrect. As I've personally watched a new whipple 2.9 car make about 60ft lbs more dynoing in 4th because it too was a 3.31 car.

If they stated they adjust cam timing and that was their reason. Guess what? That's quite believable.

Correction: You feel its "incorrect"

Fact: It's correct......

Note: With factory MPH limit, stock gear ratio's won't let you get to max RPM. Therefore testing in 5th is a waste of time unless you change the MPH limit. Furthermore, testing with a 3.31 well hit a hard limit at 184mph which cannot be changed via aftermarket tools, again, limiting 5th gear.

Let's just agree to disagree.... ok?:frusty::frusty::frusty::frusty:
 
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For all that's reading this......

Dustin has put together an amazing kit. He has been a godsend to guys like me who want to be included in the process, keeping me up to speed, and just providing outstanding customer service.


I did research for myself before I decided on Whipple. I decided on a Whipple (again) and I couldn't be happier.

If you can take anything out of this thread please let it be the knowledge that the Whipple kit is TOP NOTCH, OEM quality and a true performing supercharger kit and Whipple has amazing customer service.

If you like this kind of blower you will be happy. If you don't, and want a centri great, that's your choice. I for one am glad we all have choices.

This is my post and all I wanted is for people to get my honest opinion about the kit I chose. And from the bottom of my heart, will all certainty this kit was the single best decision I made besides buying my 6g mustang!

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Until I'm proven wrong.

Whipples reasoning of the dyno as to why that particular car dynod low is incorrect. As I've personally watched a new whipple 2.9 car make about 60ft lbs more dynoing in 4th because it too was a 3.31 car.

If they stated they adjust cam timing and that was their reason. Guess what? That's quite believable.
Not to beat a dead horse here, but I took a few minutes of my day to show you, actual facts.

2012 5.0L Boss 302, 100% stock (no track key), 91-octane. 3 minutes between runs, 5th gear being the last run. Notice the TRQ difference......
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What wee it's cylinder head temps each run? Iat? How does the spark vs ect and tables look?

I appreciate you doing this but there's too many factors.
 
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What wee it's cylinder head temps each run? Iat? How does the spark vs ect and tables look?

I appreciate you doing this but there's too many factors.

It's not black magic or trickery. He's just simply saying that the same car on the same dyno put down different numbers in 2 different gears......


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So you're saying that if a vehicle sees a warmer ect or iat setting it won't pull timing?

I appreciate what he did. Although in my experience and others this is not the case. On an automatic car yes gear makes a difference. Manuals not so much.
 

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So you're saying that if a vehicle sees a warmer ect or iat setting it won't pull timing?

I appreciate what he did. Although in my experience and others this is not the case. On an automatic car yes gear makes a difference. Manuals not so much.
Seriously?? You have to be kidding. This is a 100% stock Boss Mustang, 25k miles. I made 10 run's today, all temps are within 5deg. There are no other factors, timing was identical on 5 runs!

I've got thousands of hours on the dyno. I know for a fact many others have come across this. Again, do a search, you will see it is FACT.
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So you're saying that if a vehicle sees a warmer ect or iat setting it won't pull timing?

I appreciate what he did. Although in my experience and others this is not the case. On an automatic car yes gear makes a difference. Manuals not so much.
Ok cool man, you're right everyone else is wrong and the dyno graph is a lie. We all yield to the great and powerful Process. :hail:
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