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[Whipple SC]

Last sentence of the attached instructions says you must "turn engine off for 5 seconds. Engine is now ready to run" is this step not necessary?

No it's not needed changes take affect immediately when you slide the dial.


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[Jmeo]

No it's not needed changes take affect immediately when you slide the dial.


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I should have know it would be this simple lol

This is going to make fine tuning flight control a breeze!

 

[Evo_Rob]

Sweet, I'm hoping the Flight Control will be ready for my install next weekend

 

[Roh92cp]

No it's not needed changes take affect immediately when you slide the dial.


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Thanks for clearing that up Dustin. However one of your Whipple techs via email thinks I needed to reflash the cal for oat and adjust to take affect. This was after I sent him the same screen shot posted here of the instructions and the screen shot showing the message that said "setting octane adjust to enabled... complete". Maybe the instruction could delete the last sentence asking to turn key off to avoid further confusion.

 

[RockStang]

How dare you make a post like this with NO VIDEO!!! addle:

 

[Whipple SC]

Thanks for clearing that up Dustin. However one of your Whipple techs via email thinks I needed to reflash the cal for oat and adjust to take affect. This was after I sent him the same screen shot posted here of the instructions and the screen shot showing the message that said "setting octane adjust to enabled... complete". Maybe the instruction could delete the last sentence asking to turn key off to avoid further confusion.

The key off doesn't hurt anything, it follows the standard procedure we have to do with SCT, HP Tuners, etc. Tell some that it happens immediately for whatever reason created more confusion.

 

[caustin69]

Any updates on when new software will be ready?

 

[Roh92cp]

How dare you make a post like this with NO VIDEO!!! addle:

I know I felt like cheated everyone to:doh: it's just never as good with out video...right!

 

[Whipple SC]

Any updates on when new software will be ready?

Were releasing the auto's essentially now. The manuals should be mid/end of next week.

 

[gsxr1300]

My car is feeling slow lol with this cal have more power?
Actually its a blast in the cold with 245 Blizakks I can slide it around at will.

 

[Whipple SC]

My car is feeling slow lol with this cal have more power?
Actually its a blast in the cold with 245 Blizakks I can slide it around at will.

It will go faster but not in the snow lol


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[Jmeo]

It will go faster but not in the snow lol


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Awe man!

 

[Whipple SC]

I look at it this way and maybe I'm wrong but.....

The same engineer who writes factory Ford calibrations writes this tune. Some have argued with me that this is the wrong way to do it and EVERY modified vehicle needs a custom tune because they are all different.

I say piss on them because do you take a brand new vehicle off the lot and take it to a custom tuner because "every car is different"? No you don't. You drive it for its lifetime.

The engineer writing these calibrations knows exactly what going on and what is different between out cars the calibration adjusts on its own.

He writes these calls from the get go with FI written into it. It's not a NA calibration doctored to work on a FI car.

I am not a tuner and I do not know the ins and outs but this is what I've learned and combined with the two 2015 Whippled vehicles that I own which are performing and running like they came off the showroom floor I couldn't be happier.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Whipples tune is not to be confused with "can" tunes and should be considered what it is, professional custom tune that is second to none.

Exactly what JMEO said. It's funny, I was having a convo with the engineer the other night and I was complaining about how GM went to the torque based setup now (like Ford) and it's a nightmare to calibrate and I can sympathize with aftermarket tuners on the Ford torque based stuff. But how we have to handle GM/Dodge applications is similar to how other vendors have to support the S550. The problem is, you are working with the tools designed for naturally aspirated and you have to modify everything to work with the SC which the PCM basically has no idea it's supercharged. Even after changing all the parameters, it still doesn't know so it's a constant battle. Maybe Ford updated the strategy (happens all the time) and one setting is different, that one setting could affect every calculation. Because you are working with what is already there, you have to adapt to it. All the modules are talking to each other and they need precise data, when the data is wrong, something else follows that and its a snowball effect.

Add in the fact that the software is changing at such a pace that even many Ford engineers don't know what everything does. They have teams that work on small task and focus on a small section so one who comes up with airflow models may not be the same person as the transmission or knock detection. Our calibration partner is one of the few that knows the PCM inside and out, the strategy, the architecture, the theory, etc.

The fact is, Ford is held to a very high standard on each engine and they vary very little. Therefore a production cal for the SC is very achievable and does not need custom tuning. Especially with the wide band air fuels.

We want a customer to be able to install in his garage, on a sunday and be able to pull out of the driveway and drive it like they want without "testing" and we feel we've accomplished that. The calibration is so advanced, many can't honestly appreciate the level of thought and engineering that went into it, but it is far more advanced then any other calibration out there.

 

[Roh92cp]

Exactly what JMEO said. It's funny, I was having a convo with the engineer the other night and I was complaining about how GM went to the torque based setup now (like Ford) and it's a nightmare to calibrate and I can sympathize with aftermarket tuners on the Ford torque based stuff. But how we have to handle GM/Dodge applications is similar to how other vendors have to support the S550. The problem is, you are working with the tools designed for naturally aspirated and you have to modify everything to work with the SC which the PCM basically has no idea it's supercharged. Even after changing all the parameters, it still doesn't know so it's a constant battle. Maybe Ford updated the strategy (happens all the time) and one setting is different, that one setting could affect every calculation. Because you are working with what is already there, you have to adapt to it. All the modules are talking to each other and they need precise data, when the data is wrong, something else follows that and its a snowball effect.

Add in the fact that the software is changing at such a pace that even many Ford engineers don't know what everything does. They have teams that work on small task and focus on a small section so one who comes up with airflow models may not be the same person as the transmission or knock detection. Our calibration partner is one of the few that knows the PCM inside and out, the strategy, the architecture, the theory, etc.

The fact is, Ford is held to a very high standard on each engine and they vary very little. Therefore a production cal for the SC is very achievable and does not need custom tuning. Especially with the wide band air fuels.

We want a customer to be able to install in his garage, on a sunday and be able to pull out of the driveway and drive it like they want without "testing" and we feel we've accomplished that. The calibration is so advanced, many can't honestly appreciate the level of thought and engineering that went into it, but it is far more advanced then any other calibration out there.

I can't say enough how impressed I am with Whipple hardware and software. I've come from a high HP blown 92 coupe in which I tuned myself over the years I've used everything form the PMS, Quarter horse, MegaSquirts, PRO M EFI and SCT custom tune. In all my tuning experience it was never possible to get a good forced induction tune without really spending time with a custom experienced tuner. I had some luck tuning the A9l and with the standalone EMS, but so much effort was involved and drivabilit and starts were never perfect. Being able to put a forced induction setup that nearly doubles the horsepower, and flashing their house calibration and never looking back is unbelievable.

I really think Whipples approach to having an in house calibration that is designed and engineered for a forced induction setup blows away the competition. I have been underwhelmed so many times with aftermarket products and EFI systems in the past. I'm truely estatic with Whipple and I must thanks all the Whipple heads on this forum for telling like it is and steering me to Whipple.

 

[gsxr1300]

Shawn I used a MegaSquirt to run the secondary injectors on my turbo Hayabusa.

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