Do you race the car on track often eg. timed events or wheel to wheel? Have your skills evolved to a point where you are outdriving the OEM setup and it's holding you back?
If not and it's just a street car, you probably don't need them. Although if you're dead set on getting the Steeda dual rate springs, you should get some better shocks just so that you don't destroy your stock ones with those springs.
do NOT, do NOT, do NOT buy these for anything that lives on the street unless you WANT the overly firm and 'jittery' experience of a race car on the street. The stock dampers (rear in particular) are hopeless anyway, and utterly useless if paired with those springs!Steeda dual rate springs (.75 drop)
Okay thanks, and yeah I'm getting basically all the steeda chassis mods. So you think the I'll need upgraded dampers to run the x springs?do NOT, do NOT, do NOT buy these for anything that lives on the street unless you WANT the overly firm and 'jittery' experience of a race car on the street. The stock dampers (rear in particular) are hopeless anyway, and utterly useless if paired with those springs!
There are many threads that talk about the 2 aftermarket combos that are universally acclaimed.
X/Y springs or 200/800 and up to 250/1000 paired with Bilstein or Ford Perf Track dampers.
Skip the KW and go for the Ohlins. Also to 'button down' the car you want the Steeda or BMR chassis mods fore and aft.
Driving the car hard with the DR springs and the warts melt away somewhat. However when you hit bumps mid-corner the heavy spring winds up and throws the car around and if you're trying to modulate throttle or brake it's most unwelcome. Tracks tend to be on the smooth side and crashing over curbing is not normally done during 'delicate' footwork.
you want upgraded dampers even if you keep the stock springs. The fronts are 'tolerable' but the rears have to go!So you think the I'll need upgraded dampers to run the x springs?
they have a kit for mating those up. The SKU for the rear and their shock mounts isn't published on the website but call up @tj@steeda and they'll put the various parts together.I think bilsteins are incompatible with the steeda camber plates. Suggestions?
Alright, thanks. I see the camber plates work for the b6 and not b16. I'll wait to see if I get a response from TJ.you want upgraded dampers even if you keep the stock springs. The fronts are 'tolerable' but the rears have to go!
And replace the bump stops with chopped down units from Eibach.
they have a kit for mating those up. The SKU for the rear and their shock mounts isn't published on the website but call up @tj@steeda and they'll put the various parts together.
Yes the Ohlins work fine for all S550.
yup. The PP1 should have come the Track Pack. The Street Pack needs to be buried under 20 feet of dirt and manure never to be spoken of again.Also, the FRPP street pack is what I already have with the performance pack except it has 1"drop springs?
This to me makes me think you don't "need" anything more than stock, especially when there are many other more important aspects to consider when trying to get your car and yourself better on track.I will be taking it to tracks occasionally (MSR-Cresson, Eagles Canyon, etc).
As for driver skill... I've done track days in lighter cars and karted when I was younger. I'll have to get back to you on if I'm outdriving the OEM setup.
If anything this car needs is the dampers first, then springs. Taking struts apart to change springs and install camber plates (how much camber are you planning to run ?) And not changing dampers makes little sense.I'm buying
- Steeda dual rate springs (.75 drop)
- Steeda camber plates
- Steeda bumpsteer kit
Is there a point at which the stock shocks/struts are unsafe or detrimental to the performance gains?
Yeah, that stuff seems pretty clear on what I should get. I'm getting all the "stop the hop" stuff and g-trac.This to me makes me think you don't "need" anything more than stock, especially when there are many other more important aspects to consider when trying to get your car and yourself better on track.
Tires, brakes, bushings, cooling etc. are all priorities before shocks/struts.
Yeah I've noticed, and I'm not concerned about taking them apart multiple times. I only plan on running 1 degree or less, but I'm gonna get camber plates and bumpsteer kit since I'll need it regardless.If anything this car needs is the dampers first, then springs. Taking struts apart to change springs and install camber plates (how much camber are you planning to run ?) And not changing dampers makes little sense.
no. Diff. Spend some hours reading the HPDE sub-forum and more threads here.is that what you're talking about?