Vent thread....?

[MaskedRacerX]

I understand I was what I was subscribing to. But I can d/l songs for $0.99 each and have them forever. So if I am paying a flat fee to do the same thing and say I am a $10 per month subber for 5 years. Then gave up the service, wouldn't you think i would be able to keep the music I dloaded. After all, I technically paid for the misic. I didn't set the price. I just paid what the service provider deemed a reasonable cost for me to dload the music.

I understand also that I used the free offer, so if I paid for the fourth month, then technically I paid for the music. I am sure Apple would disagree. But that's Apple being Apple. :shrug:

Well, you can't compare the flat rate service to purchasing music. Did you see how every other streaming service (I posted a few examples) from Amazon to Google does the _same_thing_?

You paid for access to the music, using the same Terms of Service as other streaming services, the offline playback is for convenience, it's not an implied ownership of the music.

I mean, think about it, do you really think Apple, Amazon or Google is going to sell album downloads for $7.99-$9.99 *per* album, or $0.99-1.29 per track, but offer a different service where you can download 5000 albums for $10?

That makes sense, right?

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[Fordever]

Well, you can't compare the flat rate service to purchasing music. Did you see how every other streaming service (I posted a few examples) from Amazon to Google does the _same_thing_?

You paid for access to the music, using the same Terms of Service as other streaming services, the offline playback is for convenience, it's not an implied ownership of the music.

I mean, think about it, do you really think Apple, Amazon or Google is going to sell album downloads for $7.99-$9.99 *per* album, or $0.99-1.29 per track, but offer a different service where you can download 5000 albums for $10?

That makes sense, right?

Absolutely makes sense. Just pisses me off. It is a vent thread.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Absolutely makes sense. Just pisses me off. It is a vent thread.

I'm totally with you ... vent away :cheers:

 

[lemers]

The two services gives the consumer a choice in how they consume music.

I only want specific music and it maybe better to buy it song for song
Or
I may like to listen to a lot of different music, so paying for the service to have access to everything maybe better.

You don't expect to keep every movie you ever watched on Netflix, the music services are the same. There are some that sell movies and some that let you watch it.

 

[CB]

Being computer illiterate this may be a stupid thing to write but why can't you just download that music to some sort of memory device? Then who gives a damn if Apple takes them off of you. It didn't cost you but a memory device.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Being computer illiterate this may be a stupid thing to write but why can't you just download that music to some sort of memory device? Then who gives a damn if Apple takes them off of you. It didn't cost you but a memory device.

Nah, all discussions/questions are good.

The solution: buy the music, and you can do what you want with it I buy music through iTunes, share it across all our devices, even copy the files to USB sticks and use it in the Mustang.

Subscribe to a [premium] streaming service from Apple, Amazon, Google, Spotify, Pandora, etc., and the music is protected as part of the TOS of those services. They all do it ...

Again, does it make sense that <company>, would give you access to [10s of] thousands of songs for just $10 (vs. $1/each) if you could subscribe one month, download and then cancel and retain them?

Look at a service like HBOGo, you pay, you get tons of content, you can watch The Sopranos or GOT over and over again, but you can't "save" a copy of the videos, and if you cancel, you no longer have access - if you want to own the Sopranos, you have to buy them (discs or digital downloads).

It's simply two different models.

 

[CB]

I know what you mean. I buy from iTunes. I think it's great that I can choose individual songs. There are some but not many albums where I like all of the songs. But nothing beats the sound of a well taken care of album on decent equipment.

 

[Fordever]

Being computer illiterate this may be a stupid thing to write but why can't you just download that music to some sort of memory device? Then who gives a damn if Apple takes them off of you. It didn't cost you but a memory device.

Absolutely right.

If you saw my vinyl and CD collection (and even cassettes) you would crap!!! It's HUGE. All the music I dload I already have on an album of some sort. I can transfer from my collection and I have quite a bit transferred now. But it's very time consuming. I am not an advocate of stealing music, I have supported the music industry very well for more years than I care to remember but I don't want to pay twice for something either. :frusty:

Apple makes it hard to just put songs on their devices (As I said in a rant, APPLE SUCKS). But it is nice to have songs on a phone to listen to whenever you want. Just so happens I have an iPhone..... Last one BTW

Nah, all discussions/questions are good.

The solution: buy the music, and you can do what you want with it I buy music through iTunes, share it across all our devices, even copy the files to USB sticks and use it in the Mustang.

Subscribe to a [premium] streaming service from Apple, Amazon, Google, Spotify, Pandora, etc., and the music is protected as part of the TOS of those services. They all do it ...

Again, does it make sense that <company>, would give you access to [10s of] thousands of songs for just $10 (vs. $1/each) if you could subscribe one month, download and then cancel and retain them?

Look at a service like HBOGo, you pay, you get tons of content, you can watch The Sopranos or GOT over and over again, but you can't "save" a copy of the videos, and if you cancel, you no longer have access - if you want to own the Sopranos, you have to buy them (discs or digital downloads).

It's simply two different models.

As I said above, I have bought once. No need to again. I understand Apple doesn't know this and I have no way of proving it to them.

You are correct, it doesn't make sense for a company to give you 1,000,000 songs or more for $1 and then cancel. But it's more than a streaming service. The songs were on my phone. I could listen off line and all was good. At that time I didn't realize (stupid me) I would lose what I had, even thou it seemed to good to be true. I guess I didn't read the fine print (like most of us).

But lesson learned. Fool me once and it's shame on you. Fool me twice and it's shame on me. :(

Anyway, gotta get back to transferring music from my collection to digital.

More rants to come..........

 

[MaskedRacerX]

I know what you mean. I buy from iTunes. I think it's great that I can choose individual songs. There are some but not many albums where I like all of the songs. But nothing beats the sound of a well taken care of album on decent equipment.

I've been so tempted recently to score a new turntable, nothing super pricey, something like an Audio Technica LP60. I've got some vinyl I'd love to bust out of storage, and there's something really visceral about putting a big old record on a turntable. Got a nice old Yamaha amp/preamp for it, maybe move the PC-80s/sub into the office.

:cheers:

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Apple makes it hard to just put songs on their devices [...]

Anyway, gotta get back to transferring music from my collection to digital.

Hmm, open iTunes, drag MP3s onto device (works both wired _and_ wirelessly!) ... done.

Yikes, that's a horrible hassle


re: music conversion

I've been doing to the same, for +years+, I'll get started, then kind of backburner it for months. I'm not even having to deal with analog-to-digital, I'm talking CDs (~700), so it's literally two steps and done.

Maybe I can setup our little G to do it, she's got a Mac Mini in her playroom with an external DVD drive. I'll pay her $1.00 per 100 :lol:

 

[Fordever]

Hmm, open iTunes, drag MP3s onto device (works both wired _and_ wirelessly!) ... done.

Yikes, that's a horrible hassle


re: music conversion

I've been doing to the same, for +years+, I'll get started, then kind of backburner it for months. I'm not even having to deal with analog-to-digital, I'm talking CDs (~700), so it's literally two steps and done.

Maybe I can setup our little G to do it, she's got a Mac Mini in her playroom with an external DVD drive. I'll pay her $1.00 per 100 :lol:

I surrender. :cheers:

 

[daltron]

I thought I drafted OK lol. Screw your draft grades lol.

"Your Tombstone was set up perfectly to draft a playoff-caliber team with the second overall pick. Instead of using that to their advantage, however, they chose to go a different route that's geared more towards losing. They're only projected to finish seventh in VFFL League with a mark of 4-10-0 (1,549 points)."

 

[MaskedRacerX]

I surrender. :cheers:

Hahaha, that made me laugh, seriously, all in good fun and/or _maybe_ even helpful :cheers:

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Oh wait, I have something to f***ing vent about ...

People going around on the right, with cars turning to the left, on a _two_lane_road_.

Happens 99% of the time here on A1A, and sometimes the asshats don't even slow down, they just careen off the road, into the bike lane, sometimes up in people's driveways or yards.

I mean, I know all these people are super important and in a rush for something life threatening issue, so having to wait for 15-20 seconds for someone turn is a HUGE inconvenience.

 

[highvoltage]

I thought I drafted OK lol. Screw your draft grades lol.

"Your Tombstone was set up perfectly to draft a playoff-caliber team with the second overall pick. Instead of using that to their advantage, however, they chose to go a different route that's geared more towards losing. They're only projected to finish seventh in VFFL League with a mark of 4-10-0 (1,549 points)."

Damn! I wish I had a 3rd of those players on my team.

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