Unique all-wheel-drive hybrid V8 powertrain revealed in Ford patent

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    #1 Allentown, Jan 27, 2019
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    The V8 drives the rear wheels through a traditional transmission, while each of the electric motors is attached to a front wheel through a reduction gear and half-shaft, creating a hybrid all-wheel-drive system. It’s described as offering more efficient packaging than other hybrid layouts.

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-patent-application-awd-hybrid-v8/

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    #2 Fatguy, Jan 27, 2019
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    Should go in the GT500 first and beat the C8. Unfortunately the Corvette C8 is already seen on the streets of Detroit. We could get 1100 horsepower out of the C8 hybrid!
     
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    Remember though. Technically the vet is one segment up from mustang and the GT500 only fills in as a half step between the segments
     
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    What if the 350 got this? Think about a 600hp+ 500tq+ AWD system that also fills in the torque in the lower RPMs (something the 350 suffers from). I imagine it would be excellent on the track and still be able to fit in under the 500.
     
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    This should have been on the up and coming GT500.
     
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    This powertrain seems like a good way to properly use the Mach 1 name again on a Mustang.
     
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    After looking at it for 10 minutes I'm inclined to believe this new technology when released could be easily made available to the after market for S550's. It looks like they are using a new casting for the oil pan and attaching the electric motors to a bracket that all bolts together into the oil pan. There is also a tube that looks like its going from the motors into the flywheel / flex plate area of the transmission, which i'm led to believe will power to motors like Faraday flashlights (batteryless) which work with magnet passing through a coil quickly to provide power to the capacitor. My theory would be there will be magnets mounted to the flywheel / flex plate and when they flywheel spins it will energize a coil powering the electric motors. Just my take on what I see.
     
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    If the GT500 got an AWD system it could easily be a less than 3-second car considering things like the new M5 and it’s power.
     
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    It’s gonna add weight. The days of Mustang at or near 3500 seems to be fading more and more. 4500 is the new 3800
     
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    Lots of extra weight time for a all aluminum Mustang
     
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    Everything just keeps getting heavier. I can deal with the weight if they give me GTR performance. I'm also tech over purist. So I don't follow the Mustang has to be rear drive only.
     
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    After looking at the diagram I can see what you are saying about it being mounted to the oil pan... (crazy idea if you ask me) But you are forgetting that you would likely need an entirely new sub-frame and front spindles and possibly even chassis changes in order to clear the half shafts. A better idea would have been to either package them with the front spindles and eliminate the half shafts entirely or to mount them directly to the sub-frame.
     
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    The new 911 (992) is 3500 RWD-3700 AWD.
     
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    I would 100% buy an AWD hybrid V8 Mustang.
     
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    You and me both, I would love to have an AWD mustang.
     
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    #16 Allentown, Jan 28, 2019
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    Imagine if you had that and you had the Lexus rear end true tq vectoring rear diff....
     
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    In case Ford is doing sentiment analysis, Im posting my approval of this concept! Honestly, torque vectoring and AWD are almost required to keep pushing the performance envelope.
     
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    This definitely should’ve been showcased on the 500. The 500 would be a mid 2 sec 0-60 car! They said no to the 500R maybe use this for a 500KR?!
     
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    Do you think manuals are a thing of the past or will they be an option with these new hybrid systems? Ive never seen a hybrid car with manual myself. Not sure how it works/mates to transmission.
     
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    Hybrid or all electric manual transmissions are dead.
     
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