Turbo 3.7 V6?

[thatdude989]

Ford has a 3.5 V6 Twin - turbocharged 600+ HP in the 2016 GT racing in IMSA at 24 hours at Daytona, in February 2016. The 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor will have the same 3.5 V6 with 700 hp. I think your going to see this engine in a Mustang in the future.

LMAO they will never kill the V8 dude that's some wishful thinking on your end i don't have the word to say how dumb that will be for Ford to do that

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[Drugdealr]

LMAO they will never kill the V8 dude that's some wishful thinking on your end i don't have the word to say how dumb that will be for Ford to do that

It got killed on the Raptor. It will can most definitely get killed on the Mustang.


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[thatdude989]

It got killed on the Raptor. It will can most definitely get killed on the Mustang.


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yea i know if they killed the V8 in the Mustang witch is known for having the 5.0 they would be (expletive deleted) Ford not stupid man you can keep your pipe dreams that make absolutely no sense

 

[thatdude989]

i get the ECOBOOST is one bad S.O.B when it has the right Mods if Ford Killed the V8 in the mustang they would go under so fast

 

[Drugdealr]

Emissions are getting stricter. Volkswagens (expletive deleted) up isn't helping either. If keeping the breed alive means tweaking it's DNA so be it. The fact that the EcoBoost already made an appearance in the breed it won't be long before a few generations later it replaces the V8.


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[kodypiccirilli]

There was a youtube video of a TTV6 beating a modded GTR. it is a stout engine.

That being said I don't think you can realistically pull 400 n/a hp out of the V6, It would take lots more revs (>8k) so a lightened knife-edged and balanced crank, forged rods, higher compression pistons,cams , valves, headers..... you will have paid more than a V8 at that point and still not keep up with a stock one.

Engines that makes more than 100 Hp/L NA are super rare for these reasons (S2k, some exotics like Ferrari and now the Voodoo) It would cost a hell of alot more than the turbo kit (easily $10k) and you would have to chuck most of it to go turbo.

A good $6-7k turbo kit + good tune and your V6 will be knocking off super cars for around the same money (maybe a bit more than a base) V8.

With completely forged internals, cams, and different compression ratio with possibly a spray 400 seems realistic out of a NA v6. I think 400 is probably close to the limit if not the limit of the 3.7 NA.

LPF offers a single turbo kit for 2011-2014 v6 models and thats the same kit used in the youtube video when racing the GTR, with the addition of some spray. It was also on stock internals

 

[stevnoof]

The next gen Gt will be a v6 turbo. Just wait and see.

 

[K-Roll302]

The next gen Gt will be a v6 turbo. Just wait and see.

If it is, I see some nice S550 GTs in my future. They won't kill my dreams so easily.

 

[Noobtastic14]

My vote is that the 2.3T will be base, V6TT will be "GT", and the V8 will remain in limited production through "mach 1" or "super snake" blah blah etc. etc.

I don't understand why everybody is locked so hard on the 5.0 Its a great engine and the backbone of the mustang but the engine options have always evolved with current times and requirements. If the options are 430hp with the V8, or 500hp with a V6TT then what's the issue? You would rather hear two more cylinders than have an extra XXHP?

Maybe I'm just one of the odd ones. I like everything about my EB- including the sound.
-Drew

 

[K-Roll302]

My vote is that the 2.3T will be base, V6TT will be "GT", and the V8 will remain in limited production through "mach 1" or "super snake" blah blah etc. etc.

I don't understand why everybody is locked so hard on the 5.0 Its a great engine and the backbone of the mustang but the engine options have always evolved with current times and requirements. If the options are 430hp with the V8, or 500hp with a V6TT then what's the issue? You would rather hear two more cylinders than have an extra XXHP?

Maybe I'm just one of the odd ones. I like everything about my EB- including the sound.
-Drew

I would like to see a TTV6 become a mid-range motor between the 2.3 and 5.0, to test the waters first and see how the general public reacts before having it become the "GT motor".

In my opinion, seeing as I've never had a modern car with more than 4 cylinders (the most cylinders I've regularly driven coming from a vintage 911), yes, I would rather have the 430hp V8. It would not only be a step up from what I've got, but it's not like that's a minute amount of horsepower anyways, and tunes and modifications can be done so easily with new cars, that 430 could be bumped to 480 or more in a day if someone were so inclined to do so. We've reached a point in history where 400hp cars is normal and anything less is inferior or not good enough.

It's almost a fact at this point that nostalgia sells, and the V8 is the cornerstone of American automotive nostalgia, much like Italian V12s and Porsche's rear mounted engine. Hell, I'm pretty sure it's the only thing nostalgic about the Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger left besides some retro exterior designs. If that was gone, It's my thinking that these cars would only be what they are in name only and nothing else; or at least that's my understanding. Sure, there have been many times when these cars didn't have V8s as their main powertrain, those times were also quite bad for performance if history serves correct, even if some good cars like the SVO did make it out. And to most people who remember those times and some people I know that are much older than me, simply haven't moved on from it; much like how some people haven't moved on from GM recalls and bailouts yet as recent as that may be...But simply put, some people don't change on certain things and this is one of them, no matter what numbers are thrown at them.

Of course times and requirements change, and cars evolve with them, but not everyone has to go along with it if they can't help it in even the smallest way. I already know nothing I do now will prevent that inevitable reality in the future. But even if that TTV6 made x amount of horsepower over the V8, I still wouldn't take it. Respectfully, it's just not what I would want is all. And when that day comes, I'll vote with my wallet, as I'm sure you, and many others here and elsewhere will.

But I'll meet you halfway. I would take a TTV6 Mustang over the 2.3 Mustang. Why? Well, my current 4 cylinder is an ST, and it's fun as hell to drive. I have the Ford Racing catback and it makes the experience more exciting for me. But when I test drove an EB, I wasn't expecting it to sound or feel like a GT in any way. I was expecting it to feel like a torquier V6 and it did to me. That was all good, but the sound ruined it for me. Not that it was too quiet, it was simply too weak for me. But at the same time, the sound I was hearing I was use to coming from STs, SRT4 Neons and Calibers, Cobalts and the lot. I simply couldn't put that sound and the car I was driving in the same thought, and even though the only exhaust that could fix that for me would be the Magnaflows, I'd be lying to myself if I said it would make the car better to me. But I do believe a TTV6 would sound oodles better than the 2.3, stock for stock, and if those two were my only options, I would indeed take the extra two cylinders.

Sorry about the long post. It's just all about the different experiences and backgrounds we all have that back up our opinions on what engines we like, and this one is mine.

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[Noobtastic14]

I would like to see a TTV6 become a mid-range motor between the 2.3 and 5.0, to test the waters first and see how the general public reacts before having it become the "GT motor".

In my opinion, seeing as I've never had a modern car with more than 4 cylinders (the most cylinders I've regularly driven coming from a vintage 911), yes, I would rather have the 430hp V8. It would not only be a step up from what I've got, but it's not like that's a minute amount of horsepower anyways, and tunes and modifications can be done so easily with new cars, that 430 could be bumped to 480 or more in a day if someone were so inclined to do so. We've reached a point in history where 400hp cars is normal and anything less is inferior or not good enough.

It's almost a fact at this point that nostalgia sells, and the V8 is the cornerstone of American automotive nostalgia, much like Italian V12s and Porsche's rear mounted engine. Hell, I'm pretty sure it's the only thing nostalgic about the Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger left besides some retro exterior designs. If that was gone, It's my thinking that these cars would only be what they are in name only and nothing else; or at least that's my understanding. Sure, there have been many times when these cars didn't have V8s as their main powertrain, those times were also quite bad for performance if history serves correct, even if some good cars like the SVO did make it out. And to most people who remember those times and some people I know that are much older than me, simply haven't moved on from it; much like how some people haven't moved on from GM recalls and bailouts yet as recent as that may be...

Of course times and requirements change, and cars evolve with them, but not everyone has to go along with it if they can't help it in even the smallest way. I already know nothing I do now will prevent that inevitable reality in the future. But even if that TTV6 made x amount of horsepower over the V8, I still wouldn't take it. Respectfully, it's just not what I would want is all. And when that day comes, I'll vote with my wallet, as I'm sure you, and many others here and elsewhere will.

But I'll meet you halfway. I would take a TTV6 Mustang over the 2.3 Mustang. Why? Well, my current 4 cylinder is an ST, and it's fun as hell to drive. I have the Ford Racing catback and it makes the experience more exciting for me. But when I test drove an EB, I wasn't expecting it to sound or feel like a GT in any way. I was expecting it to feel like a torquier V6 and it did to me. That was all good, but the sound ruined it for me. Not that it was too quiet, it was simply too weak for me. But at the same time, the sound I was hearing I was use to coming from STs, SRT4 Neons and Calibers, Cobalts and the lot. I simply couldn't put that sound and the car I was driving in the same thought, and even though the only exhaust that could fix that for me would be the Magnaflows, I'd be lying to myself if I said it would make the car better to me. But I do believe a TTV6 would sound oodles better than the 2.3, stock for stock, and if those two were my only options, I would indeed take the extra two cylinders.

Sorry about the long post. It's just all about the different experiences and backgrounds we all have that back up our opinions on what engines we like, and this one is mine.

:cheers:

You can vote with your wallet- but the mustang crowd has a big ego. When the 1SS specs came out they about lost their minds. When a stock v6 is blowing stock v8 doors off they'll come around. Especially if the v6 is coming stock with built internals, DI, etc. and opens the doors for BIG aftermarket power.
-Drew

 

[K-Roll302]

You can vote with your wallet- but the mustang crowd has a big ego. When the 1SS specs came out they about lost their minds. When a stock v6 is blowing stock v8 doors off they'll come around. Especially if the v6 is coming stock with built internals, DI, etc. and opens the doors for BIG aftermarket power.
-Drew

Every crowd has an ego somewhere among it's midst; some are more pronounced than others, Mustangs being no exception. I don't even have a Mustang, but I have seen first hand what you're talking about. The specs of the 1SS were exactly what I thought they would be, weight included. I just sat and read the disputes.

There are many stock turbocharged 6 cylinder cars that out-perform the GT as we type, some for a good while even. Though none of them are as "affordable" as the GT, they're still out there. The 3.5EB in the GT is a clear sign of where things are headed. Perhaps when motors like that are in the same price range as the 5.0 or even cheaper, then we'll see a change in engine choice.

Though to be honest, I think the immediate response will be to pump out as many horses out of the V8 until the block is destroyed.

But who knows, we'll just have to wait and see what happens in the next decade. But I'm betting the 2.7EB will have a place first before something replaces the 5.0

 

[Grimace427]

You would rather hear two more cylinders than have an extra XXHP?

Absolutely. Can't do much in my area with more than 400hp anyway, I'd rather enjoy the driving experience than to simply say I have more power.

 

[Bay1Stang]

With the way Ford is going all in on Ecoboost I'd wager it's a matter of time before the Mustang is all turbo. Lexus fought the good fight for a while but even they're doing the turbo engines now. Who knows, though? Maybe they can make the V8 more efficient with the cylinder deactivation and whatnot.

 

[Drugdealr]

I mean, if the EcoBoost is good enough for the GT, why isn't it good enough for the Mustang GT.

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