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For $20 you can get a different clutch spring from Steeda, which gives the clutch a better feel than the stock spring, but is not so extreme a change as simply removing the spring.
I have one of those springs. Works quite well.

The basic premise is that the factory spring is suppose to help you press in the clutch pedal by adding pressure from the spring to the pedal mechanism. There is a cam over point where that spring pushes up on the pedal (instead of down towards the floor) to hold the pedal tightly against the stop when not pressing the clutch pedal. Supposedly to prevent the weight of the pedal (and flop from going over bumps) from slightly pushing down on the hydraulics and potentially engaging the throw out bearing when not touching the pedal with your foot.

My problem was that the assist spring "Cams over" from push down to push up right in the middle of the clutch engagement stroke. Very irritating.

Many people just remove the spring, others are concerned about the potential for the pedal's weight and flop to add unnecessary wear to the throw-out bearing. Additionally, the new tunes that come with the FRPP power packs includes a no-lift shift (as well as stock cars cancelling the cruise control) if the "clutch pedal is not at the top resting place" switch is engaged (from floppy or low hanging pedal?)... this is where the replacement assist spring comes in. It is soft enough to not diddle with the feel of the clutch, but has just enough tension to still press the clutch pedal against the top resting stop.

Works great, isn't very expensive, and is very easy to install. I recommend it, but don't want to start another debate about whether or not it is necessary...that you'll have to decide for yourself based on the above explanation (for what it's worth).

Do any of the aftermarket clutches have the clutch pedal engagement point closer to the floor? I can't stand how high up the stock clutch grabs, it's tough to shift smoothly.
As to the original question about lowering the engagement point... You can accomplish this by loosening the connection between the slave cylinder and the clutch fork. This will require that the pedal be pressed farther down before building pressure on the throw-out bearing. Two issues with this approach. Everything you take away from the top of the clutch pedal stroke is also lost on the bottom of the pedal stroke (the pedal will still hit the floor at the same position), this will result in a less effective break in the transmission of power from the flywheel to the transmission input shaft when the clutch pedal is pressed all the way to the floor. This could result in the clutch discs dragging a bit which will heat them up and wear them out faster when you are holding the clutch pedal to the floor (like at stop lights and in heavy traffic). There is a window of acceptable adjustment, it is your choice how to use it.

The other problem is that the clutch slave cylinder and clutch fork linkage is inside the bell-housing, making it a bugger to access and adjust. However, I have only seen the arrangement on parts-fiche and have not personally attempted to access or adjust, so I might be completely off on that. I would hope they engineered a decent access panel or something. (I was actually looking into replacing the bleeder valve with a speed bleeder, but didn't follow through with it past the image on the parts-fiche).
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Can anyone help me out? I bought some niche wheels and the centercap does not fit over the front grease cap. Do u just hammer the grease cap in and deform it?
 

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According to the poll that measures how many 15 -17 year mustangs have a driveline vibration, it seems that 45% of these cars do. Is that right or even possible? I have met at least a dozen mustang owners and none have mentioned this as a problem.I am not saying it doesnt exist, but is it that widespread? Will my 16 with 21000 miles eventually start to vibrate.
 

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no way on the driveline vibration. Think about it. They sell around 8k Mustangs a month. Thats 96K a year. X 3 years is almost 300K Mustangs. No way that even close to almost 150K of them vibrate. Mine doesnt, 2016 GT. Maybe a few hundred or thousand may. Out of almost 300K of them made, thats a low percentage.
 
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no way on the driveline vibration. Think about it. They sell around 8k Mustangs a month. Thats 96K a year. X 3 years is almost 300K Mustangs. No way that even close to almost 150K of them vibrate. Mine doesnt, 2016 GT. Maybe a few hundred or thousand may. Out of almost 300K of them made, thats a low percentage.
It would be interesting to figure out some type of calibration factor for the polls on these types of forums and reality.

It stands to reason that people with a vibration problem would search the internet for a cause/solution and undoubtedly end up here on the forum. Thus concentrating the number of affected to answer the poll.

However, to calibrate it we would need real world data and at that point the poll isn't needed.

My '16 GT is also vibration free...
 

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Anybody figure out how to disable the FRPP power pack 2 no-lift shift yet?

I'm pretty sure that it has been responsible for a couple of full throttle cut outs that were nowhere near redline but usually following a hard shift.

Hopefully not something more sinister, but no other indicators on the instrument panel or ECU.

Minor inconvenience and creates lingering doubts about overall health of the car, but if you were trying to set times it would ruin your run. I have never used the no-lift-shift on purpose and don't expect to. For me it was just extra baggage that came with the tune, but now it seems that it is getting the way.
 

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When you lock the doors through the door handle does that also set the alarm?
 

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According to the poll that measures how many 15 -17 year mustangs have a driveline vibration, it seems that 45% of these cars do. Is that right or even possible? I have met at least a dozen mustang owners and none have mentioned this as a problem.I am not saying it doesnt exist, but is it that widespread? Will my 16 with 21000 miles eventually start to vibrate.
41000 miles and no vibrations on my 16.
 

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How small is a small question?
 

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Can anyone help me out? I bought some niche wheels and the centercap does not fit over the front grease cap. Do u just hammer the grease cap in and deform it?
I don't see why not. No ones gonna know it but you, and second buyer if they need tires. :) It's odd there is that much difference over the years though. I didn't have that problem with the Niche wheels on my old '06.
 

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why? :D

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Can anyone help me out? I bought some niche wheels and the centercap does not fit over the front grease cap. Do u just hammer the grease cap in and deform it?
I run thin 5mm spacers on my front wheels for this very reason. Got them from CJPP.
 

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