Test drives

[doulos4jc]

Why are you all excited!? Test driving on Sept 20....I expect to get my Mustang in my garage before that!!

I hope to be test driving mine by then. ;)

+1 :shrug:

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[Free Agent]

locate the nearest weigh station and test drive it straight there please...you will be the hero of the interweb.

Forget that. Go hit up an dyno. We need to know HORSEPOWER/TORQUE.

 

[souprmage]

That, and HP/TRQ numbers were said to be released by early September, so no need for a dyno, not compared to an actual weight with known option packages.

 

[Fomoco15]

I would love to see people get their cars before then but I dont think so. I just want to hit this curvy road I know near by. Another thing she said. Order numbers change throughout the process..... did not know that.

 

[doulos4jc]

If history is any guide, cars will start to trickle into dealerships and garages late August/ early September.

 

[deven2015GT]

We also know that Ford doesn't gimmick with the HP/TQ #'s. They give you the actual HP/TQ to the ground, not before it goes through the drivetrain, so w/e Chevy and Dodge say their HP is, take off at least 10% drivetrain loss.

 

[smitty]

We also know that Ford doesn't gimmick with the HP/TQ #'s. They give you the actual HP/TQ to the ground, not before it goes through the drivetrain, so w/e Chevy and Dodge say their HP is, take off at least 10% drivetrain loss.

Huh? I think hp/tq measurement is standardized throughout the industry and the measurement is made at the flywheel. Ford did have an issue with late 90s cobras not making their advertised horsepower, so I think within standard deviation they err on the side of more vs. less these days. And that's cool
What's even cooler is that the new ecoboost will make similar hp and more torque than those same said cobras of yore ;)

 

[deven2015GT]

Huh? I think hp/tq measurement is standardized throughout the industry and the measurement is made at the flywheel. Ford did have an issue with late 90s cobras not making their advertised horsepower, so I think within standard deviation they err on the side of more vs. less these days. And that's cool
What's even cooler is that the new ecoboost will make similar hp and more torque than those same said cobras of yore ;)

From what I was told by a friend that knows infinitely more than I do about cars (who also built custom engines for a living for awhile) told me what I stated above. I would have to agree with him over you guys ;) lol sorry.

 

[Dosia]

From what I was told by a friend that knows infinitely more than I do about cars (who also built custom engines for a living for awhile) told me what I stated above. I would have to agree with him over you guys ;) lol sorry.

Thats not true considering you can read peoples dyno results from previous stangs, compared to what they are spec'ed at.

 

[EXP Jawa]

From what I was told by a friend that knows infinitely more than I do about cars (who also built custom engines for a living for awhile) told me what I stated above. I would have to agree with him over you guys ;) lol sorry.

Manufacturers test to SAE standard J1349 - its even written down and everything, so everyone has the same rules. ;) The SAE standard is for a flywheel HP number, with all common belt driven and other accessories that sap power in place on the engine. It does not account for drivetrain losses due to friction, etc, so it is not an "at the wheels" number. This can be verified by comparing pretty much anybody's stock dyno numbers to the OEM claim.

What's more is that the industry has moved to adopting "SAE Certified" power numbers, which uses standard J2723 to verify the output of running an engine to standard J1349. Its an industry-wide standard; no manufacturer reports wheel horsepower numbers since there are too many variables and it opens up the same sort of unregulated pissing contest that trailer tow ratings have.

Bottom line is your buddy is wrong. :shrug:

 

[RisingForce]

445 HP is rumored.

And these test drive units will be Factory demos that ford will take to different dealers and each dealer has them for couple days ( with anyone test driving filling out a form )

 

[deven2015GT]

Manufacturers test to SAE standard J1349 - its even written down and everything, so everyone has the same rules. ;) The SAE standard is for a flywheel HP number, with all common belt driven and other accessories that sap power in place on the engine. It does not account for drivetrain losses due to friction, etc, so it is not an "at the wheels" number. This can be verified by comparing pretty much anybody's stock dyno numbers to the OEM claim.

What's more is that the industry has moved to adopting "SAE Certified" power numbers, which uses standard J2723 to verify the output of running an engine to standard J1349. Its an industry-wide standard; no manufacturer reports wheel horsepower numbers since there are too many variables and it opens up the same sort of unregulated pissing contest that trailer tow ratings have.

Bottom line is your buddy is wrong. :shrug:

Touche! He's more of an acquaintance anyways ;) lol

 

[scottpe]

Manufacturers test to SAE standard J1349 - its even written down and everything, so everyone has the same rules. ;) The SAE standard is for a flywheel HP number, with all common belt driven and other accessories that sap power in place on the engine. It does not account for drivetrain losses due to friction, etc, so it is not an "at the wheels" number. This can be verified by comparing pretty much anybody's stock dyno numbers to the OEM claim.

What's more is that the industry has moved to adopting "SAE Certified" power numbers, which uses standard J2723 to verify the output of running an engine to standard J1349. Its an industry-wide standard; no manufacturer reports wheel horsepower numbers since there are too many variables and it opens up the same sort of unregulated pissing contest that trailer tow ratings have.

Bottom line is your buddy is wrong. :shrug:

I have to believe there is some way that manufacturers are able to fudge the numbers. For instance, the new M4 has been revealed to be making about as much HP at the wheels as its published rating. I know there are correction factors involved that result in some margin of error, but usually not 40-60HP worth...

 

[Tony Alonso]

If history is any guide, cars will start to trickle into dealerships and garages late August/ early September.

See here for a discussion on the "ok to sell" date. The OP might be driving before most (if not all) of us.

 

[doulos4jc]

See here for a discussion on the "ok to sell" date. The OP might be driving before most (if not all) of us.

Yea I saw that. For me it's way too early in the game to get worked up about dates and times. Money is a huge motivator...Ford not making $$$$ on MY2015's until late in October!? Sounds kinda far fetched to me. My money is on September(at least).

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