Supercharger/Regrets

[Roh92cp]

Lol! Sorry man. Best I could come up with at the moment. Probably not the best choice for comparison, but I've made worse mistakes in my life. Bottom line is...Whipple's selling points are quality, reliability, tuneability, customer service and so on. If I'm spending $10K on a supercharger, I'm gonna expect exactly those things. This is my daily driver. I can't afford it not to be reliable. Nor should I be expected to accept that flipping belts around on my off days is OK because "stuff" happens. I'm taking the plunge with Whipple, but I'm paying a dealer to install it to help eliminate all the deviations I can. That way, if the "stuff" ain't right, I can take it back to them. However, if my car blows a belt and leaves me stranded on the highway at 4AM or starts chirping like a canary, you can bet I'm gonna be disappointed and extremely pissed. After all, it's only taken me a year and lots of time away from my family to save up for it. Wish me luck.

LOL... it's cool :cheers:Look if you're going to buy the Whipple have installed you might as well have it installed by a certified Whipple installer and get the whipple warranty.

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[venumous]

I have zero brand loyalty and quite frankly find it a bit childish. I've owned Hondas, Acuras, Subarus, Chevys, Pontiacs, VW and of course Ford. I have a Whipple on my Terminator and Procharger on my 5.0. If you nearly double the power of a car, chances are, things will go wrong. It's part of the game and actually part of what makes it fun. I've learned more from breaking stuff than from anything else. Driving a 700+ HP car, especially as a DD and thinking it's going to be as reliable as it was is just ludicrous.

 

[hawk232]

I have zero brand loyalty and quite frankly find it a bit childish. I've owned Hondas, Acuras, Subarus, Chevys, Pontiacs, VW and of course Ford. I have a Whipple on my Terminator and Procharger on my 5.0. If you nearly double the power of a car, chances are, things will go wrong. It's part of the game and actually part of what makes it fun. I've learned more from breaking stuff than from anything else. Driving a 700+ HP car, especially as a DD and thinking it's going to be as reliable as it was is just ludicrous.

This!

im reading this thread and thinking HOLY COW... these people really think that because they are spending X dollars that there shouldnt be issues?!?!!? have you never modified cars before??? anyone who wants stock reliability and driveability should leave the car stock. those who want more need to understand that its constant work to achieve good results and good driveability with minimal issues ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

 

[4orceFed]

LOL... it's cool :cheers:Look if you're going to buy the Whipple have installed you might as well have it installed by a certified Whipple installer and get the whipple warranty.

Does a Ford dealership qualify as certified or is there a list of approved installers?

 

[4orceFed]

This!

im reading this thread and thinking HOLY COW... these people really think that because they are spending X dollars that there shouldnt be issues?!?!!? have you never modified cars before??? anyone who wants stock reliability and driveability should leave the car stock. those who want more need to understand that its constant work to achieve good results and good driveability with minimal issues ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

Ya, I guess it's a bit ridiculous to expect that after spending half of my savings account on a power adder that the product be reliable. Holy cow! What was I thinking? Listen, if a company charges a customer that much money for a product and one of its selling points is reliability, than it should be exactly that. I don't know what it is, but it's like some have blinders on. That's a S$@t ton of money. If an enthusiast rolled up in a parking lot and said he just spent 10 grand on a SC and his car was chirping, I think I'd have to laugh a little and question his investment. I've modded cars before but I don't spend every waking moment in the garage fine tuning my vehicle. I don't have buckets of money laying around my house and I work A LOT. So, call me crazy, unrealistic or foolish, but I need it to be as advertised....if it's not, then I'll wait and find another product that is. Lots of factory equipped vehicles have come with superchargers with complete reliability. I don't think it's ludicrous to expect the same from Roush, Whipple, Pro Charger etc. Do I expect a few issues once in a great while, yep. But I'm not looking for a product that needs to have it's belt flipped every 100-200 miles, drops power with aggressive driving(Roush), chirps like a bird and shreds belts.

So many posts on these forums about members using their cars as DD's when suggesting SC brands and reliability. However, the second someone expects reliability or questions it, they're ludicrous for thinking they can mod a car and have both.

Mr. Whipple's been on here a few times and has assured many that the issue I'm concerned about is resolved. So, I'll go with that and hope for the best.

 

[venumous]

There is so much more at play than just the blower itself. It's the entire drivetrain that is being subjected to the additional power that I was obviously speaking to. You can have a blower as reliable as Mother Teresa but so many people are confusing and twisting that into overall reliability. Not doing the OPGs and CS is a mistake IMO, yet people won't do it to save $1500, more than likely because they can't afford it, not because they are truly convinced it isn't a good idea.. There is nothing cheap about 700HP and it never ceases to amaze me how often people put themselves in poor financial positions, carwise and unrelated as well and sooner or later are wondering who to point the finger at. I'm not directing this to anyone in particular, including the previous post so don't take it personally.

Also, comparing factory supercharged vehicles to aftermarket is not relevant.

 

[4orceFed]

There is so much more at play than just the blower itself. It's the entire drivetrain that is being subjected to the additional power that I was obviously speaking to. You can have a blower as reliable as Mother Teresa but so many people are confusing and twisting that into overall reliability. Not doing the OPGs and CS is a mistake IMO, yet people won't do it to save $1500, more than likely because they can't afford it, not because they are truly convinced it isn't a good idea.. There is nothing cheap about 700HP and it never ceases to amaze me how often people put themselves in poor financial positions, carwise and unrelated as well and sooner or later are wondering who to point the finger at. I'm not directing this to anyone in particular, including the previous post so don't take it personally.

Also, comparing factory supercharged vehicles to aftermarket is not relevant.

I totally understand. I've learned a ton on these forums, and hopefully by following the advise of others and learning from others' experiences, my install will be solid.

 

[Mustang_Lou]

Can anyone comment on the reliability between the PD-type (eg. Whipple, TVS, etc.) blowers and the centrifugal type (Paxton, Procharger, etc.)?

I'd THINK that the more linear ramp-up of boost on the centrifugal would be safer as opposed to a more direct hit of the PD??

Although, I understand that Whipple has the ability to ramp up boost as well with their Flight Control software.

 

[beefcake]

the reliability on any of the well known companies is very good.

paxton, vortech, procharger, whipple, vmp, hellion, roush, etc..

can't really go wrong with any of the ones we sell

it all comes down to wants / needs / driving style

feel free to pm or call with any questions

 

[Stage_3]

I have zero brand loyalty and quite frankly find it a bit childish.

^^THIS!
The Roush Stage 3 is my toy. I also have a '16 Ram, Sport 4X4, regular cab which is my daily driver. My second Ram truck to date. My toy previous to the Roush was a 1 of 35 Hugger Orange Camaro SS with white leather interior.
If it's fast, loud and looks killer,.........I'm all over it, regardless of brand.

 

[Jmeo]

My only 2 regrets were:

1. Not installing the Whipple myself.
2. Not ordering it red.

The only issue I had was an occasional chirp with my 10 rib kit. The fix is on its way to me now. I bought my kit 2 years ago and I am still being taken care of.

That said, If I didn't have Tasca Mod Shop install it I never would have met Dennis and Gregg which means I wouldn't have then become friends with them. I am a return Whipple customer but this time around I have come to know the Whipple team.

I am now installing the kit myself on my 2017

Also, I just ordered a red kit for a friend for which I am swapping my black blower with so I will now have red

I can now say I have no regrets!!!

 

[Boduke0220]

There is so much more at play than just the blower itself. It's the entire drivetrain that is being subjected to the additional power that I was obviously speaking to. You can have a blower as reliable as Mother Teresa but so many people are confusing and twisting that into overall reliability. Not doing the OPGs and CS is a mistake IMO, yet people won't do it to save $1500, more than likely because they can't afford it, not because they are truly convinced it isn't a good idea.. There is nothing cheap about 700HP and it never ceases to amaze me how often people put themselves in poor financial positions, carwise and unrelated as well and sooner or later are wondering who to point the finger at. I'm not directing this to anyone in particular, including the previous post so don't take it personally.

Also, comparing factory supercharged vehicles to aftermarket is not relevant.

This, I always try to have a good amount of extra in the bank if something happens. With that said I went vmp tvs for reliability and power. Loved the power band on my terminator so I figured I'd see what higher compression and more displacement felt like and it feels amazing

 

[ProChargerTECH]

I think it's strange that there are active discussions on here where guys are having problems with their Whipple and ProCharger kits and none of them have enough regrets to post in this thread about it. Kind of like they can't admit they spent that much money on a product that doesn't work correctly.

Out of the countless systems that leave this door daily.
The number of "issues" is far less than 1% actually.

I would like to think two things occur...

1) We work with each customer when they contact us, to try resolution to whatever issue they might be having. We have a huge phone staff ready to take those calls.

2) In the end a resolution is found, and customer has a happy day making LOADS more HP than when they started. .... communication is key, and we are here M-F 8:30-5:30pm


If anyone here has ever worked at a dealership, they will know that not even the OEM cars are "perfect" and that there is always a percentage of error that happens even stock. Just like the OEMs make updates so do we.

That error percentage is even harder to keep low, when you start talking about stacking aftermarket parts on top of aftermarket parts, on top of aftermarket parts. (example, the car with a "tune" issue... that after months of hair pulling... finally tells his dealer that he has an aftermarket MAF, and different throttle body)

We have a dedicated team to making killer boost products.
And, they cost far far less then 10k

 

[Mustang_Lou]

^^ Well said!

 

[Sal GT]

ZERO regrets with my Procharger P1/S2

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