Supercharged GT PP vs GT350 ?

[TorkN8R]

IMO...If the GT350 came in an auto, Id be all over that like Duck on a June Bug.

But it doesn't! I traded my 2015 GTPP for a 2016 auto w/3.55's.

Just cant stand rowing through the gears.

I heard that Shelby America will offer an SC /auto.

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[valentinoamoro]

DDing shove/fun - S/C GT-PP. Get the JMS Pedalmax as well. Even Tuned GT.
Auto X/Track - GT350 R. Even GT 350
Resale - GT350/R but you will take a hit in trading in..so about even Vs s/c
Drag - S/C GT-PP
Narrow twisty roads - Regular GT with suspension work. Wider car = difficult in these situations.
If you like modding/customizing - GT.
Long term maintenance - Probably GT as engine is proven and parts are cheap.

Really depends on what driving you do. You cant go wrong with either. If I were to get a GT350 though, I would def save up the extra and go whole hog on the R. In the first drives, reviews seem to be ok for the 350, but OMFG for the R.

 

[Glenn G]

Maybe compared to a supercharged GT, but if you are comparing stock to stock the GT350 will be similar to a GT up to about 20 mph and then it will walk away. Don't forget the GT350 has more tire and 3.73 rear gears.

Again you are talking about racing and a drag launch, I am talking about driving around town

A GT PP also has 3.73 rear end and the amount of tire wont matter
I agree that at WOT, shifting at 8200rpm the 350 will knock the pants off 99% of cars on the road, But that lack of low end grunt will amplify at part throttle, like moving off the line and not wanting to slam into the car 200 feet in-front of you.

I have had my share of high RPM screamers, and they shine in their environment but were kind of dogs in normal traffic. So i will reiterate, if you are not at WOT the GT will drive better than the 350 supercharger or not.

 

[Hack]

Again you are talking about racing and a drag launch, I am talking about driving around town

A GT PP also has 3.73 rear end and the amount of tire wont matter
I agree that at WOT, shifting at 8200rpm the 350 will knock the pants off 99% of cars on the road, But that lack of low end grunt will amplify at part throttle, like moving off the line and not wanting to slam into the car 200 feet in-front of you.

I have had my share of high RPM screamers, and they shine in their environment but were kind of dogs in normal traffic. So i will reiterate, if you are not at WOT the GT will drive better than the 350 supercharger or not.

I was talking about driving around town. I do full throttle launches every day around town and I've never been to a drag strip. Now I do roll into the throttle to avoid spinning the tires, but they are still full throttle launches.

I disagree with you that more tire doesn't matter for acceleration - more tire gives better grip.

If you drive the GT350 and keep it around 1,500-2,500 rpm, yes it will be calm. This is a great thing for low traction, slippery days. The Coyote is also low torque in that situation. If you are interested in spirited driving you will keep the Voodoo up above 3,500 rpms. It's not that complicated. The Voodoo won't be a dog above 3,500 rpm.

 

[BmacIL]

I've driven the GT350 around town. At NO POINT did it feel like a pig or lacking power. I will concede that there is a tiny bit more grunt from my Coyote up to ~3000 RPM, but not enough of a difference that would make anyone lament a GT350.

The sound of the GT350 makes it a riot, as does the focused feel of everything in the car, not to mention the 8,250 redline.

 

[Tm@c1965]

If it was a DD

Blown GT/PP. Non daily driver, GT-350.

 

[Erik427]

But if you are not on a track, Like the remaining 99% of the time low end Grunt is what makes a car fun. I think in the city the 350 will feel like a pig compared to the GT unless you drag launch it all the time.

So very true! This is why I think Ford should have offered a lower rear gear. They touched base with this concept when they fitted The R with shorter tires. Instead of a 1 to 1 drive ratio? They should of used a slightly over driven "drive" ratio to compensate for the lower rear gear. Ever smallish displacement V-8 that I've ever seen that has free breathing heads and such always perform they're best with the lowest rear gear possible. OHV or DOHC, makes no difference. Ford should have offered a 3.91 gear option for the GT350/GT350R.

 

[908ssp]

A supercharged GT/PP will be faster everywhere except the road course, no contest hands down even in the wrong gear. Now if that doesn't matter than use whatever criteria you think is most important. The GT350 is interesting and I applaud Ford for building it but I have no interest in owning one. If I was buying a car for the road course I'd buy an Alfa Romeo.

 

[Inigo]

Supercharged PP all day.

:cheers:

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Again you are talking about racing and a drag launch, I am talking about driving around town

A GT PP also has 3.73 rear end and the amount of tire wont matter
I agree that at WOT, shifting at 8200rpm the 350 will knock the pants off 99% of cars on the road, But that lack of low end grunt will amplify at part throttle, like moving off the line and not wanting to slam into the car 200 feet in-front of you.

I have had my share of high RPM screamers, and they shine in their environment but were kind of dogs in normal traffic. So i will reiterate, if you are not at WOT the GT will drive better than the 350 supercharger or not.

I agree. That lack of low end grunt is why the car has put up less that stellar 1/4 times in the magazines. So far the GT350 seams to be about as fast as a tuned GT in a drag race.:shrug:

 

[BmacIL]

I agree. That lack of low end grunt is why the car has put up less that stellar 1/4 times in the magazines. So far the GT350 seams to be about as fast as a tuned GT in a drag race.:shrug:

So what?

 

[bluebeastsrt]

So what?

Not even really sure how to respond to you. Are you involved with the conversation at all? Do you need for someone to draw you a picture?? Not sure what your needing? If you don't understand the point I'm trying to make about low end torque and driving around town where low end torque is a premium. I don't know what to do for you? Your not going to be ripping off an 8000RPM runs from stop light to stop light in a GT350. It's power band is conductive to a road course. Not a city block.

 

[BmacIL]

Not even really sure how to respond to you. Are you involved with the conversation at all? Do you need for someone to draw you a picture?? Not sure what your needing? If you don't understand the point I'm trying to make about low end torque and driving around town where low end torque is a premium. I don't know what to do for you? Your not going to be ripping off an 8000RPM runs from stop light to stop light in a GT350. It's power band is conductive to a road course. Not a city block.

Yeah, and, if that low-end torque is of huge importance to you, you might be better off with a GT with some performance mods than a GT350. It still has plenty of torque to accelerate with authority w/o going WOT or way up in the rev range (I know, I've driven one). This car was built to be fast around a road course and has a powerband that is AMAZING for that. It certainly isn't slow from a stop light, but sure, a supercharged GT is quicker. Heck, even my GT is a tiny bit faster below 3000 RPM. I noticed that when I hopped out of the GT350 and back into mine. Above 3000 rpm, no comparison.

 

[z06psi]

I went GT. More power and I would venture to guess outside of tires mine would handle just as well.

I have invested about 61K in total and the car flies and handles really well.

And no ADM.

 

[stanglife]

Not even really sure how to respond to you. Are you involved with the conversation at all? Do you need for someone to draw you a picture?? Not sure what your needing? If you don't understand the point I'm trying to make about low end torque and driving around town where low end torque is a premium. I don't know what to do for you? Your not going to be ripping off an 8000RPM runs from stop light to stop light in a GT350. It's power band is conductive to a road course. Not a city block.

What you're saying is that in a city block environment, where there are a lot of stops and starts - low end torque is more noticeable. This is true. I think not as many people enjoy their cars this way, though. Who is worried about stop light to stop light? While it's important, I think you are making it sound a little more valuable and frequently used than it really is. Most people get out on the curvy roads/interstates and enjoy their cars. I do my best to stay out of the city and if that's where you're doing most of your driving, I might suggest a moped or a bicycle, as they both make more sense than low-end-torque for light to light driving in the city.

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