15wile
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This supposes the Camaro 6G guys can lay off the Miller Lite long enough to make sense of it.Can you just imagine what the guys on the Camaro and Challenger forums are saying about this thread right now?
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This supposes the Camaro 6G guys can lay off the Miller Lite long enough to make sense of it.Can you just imagine what the guys on the Camaro and Challenger forums are saying about this thread right now?
You sure it isnt Natty?!This supposes the Camaro 6G guys can lay off the Miller Lite long enough to make sense of it.
To complicate matters more, the big three used to report less HP than actual, to get better ins rates on some muscle cars. In that case, they might have actually been close to the same wheel hp as rated crank hp. Then you have the detuned versions of engines that took some simple changes to make big hp. Then there's hp and torque curve differences. Besides, advertised peak is not the whole story but that's what we are stuck with. A lot of ppl ignore tq numbers too, which baffles me. Out of all the ppl that ask the hp of my car, I almost never get asked about torque.Crank HP is more consistent. It's a good number to use for really basic sales comparison. This way the manufacturer doesn't need to rate every variant of the car slightly different.
Anybody who knows even a little about cars will know the difference between crank and rwhp anyway.
At least today's crank ratings aren't fudged like in the old days, where they calculated HP without all the motor's other components, lulz.
To complicate matters more, the big three used to report less HP than actual, to get better ins rates on some muscle cars. In that case, they might have actually been close to the same wheel hp as rated crank hp. Then you have the detuned versions of engines that took some simple changes to make big hp. Then there's hp and torque curve differences. Besides, advertised peak is not the whole story but that's what we are stuck with. A lot of ppl ignore tq numbers too, which baffles me. Out of all the ppl that ask the hp of my car, I almost never get asked about torque.
You like.... some sort of genius or something?! Surprised you haven't put your IQ rating in your signature yet!somehow I've always known about the difference in crank vs wheel hp.
or maybe because I took physics in high school so when we're talking about cars in school yard we actually knew what we're talking about.
The big three journals just list the manufacturer's hp rating, that's it.This is why a lot of the major magazines list hp in their test as "claimed" hp, unless the magazine dyno's the car themselves-which they sometimes do.
To my knowledge, gearing will have little/no effect on wheel hp. But transmission and drive type (AWD vs RWD/FWD) will as a result of normal drive train losses.... if you had a car that had 3.55 and 3.73 ratios, your wheel power is going to be different ... Now add in the mix for automatics vs manuals ...
Yeah, that was a long time ago. lolTo complicate matters more, the big three used to report less HP than actual, to get better ins rates on some muscle cars ...
Well, he took Physics in High School, but I took physics in pre-school. IQ of 761. You know it is true, because it is on the internet.You like.... some sort of genius or something?! Surprised you haven't put your IQ rating in your signature yet!