Steering ratio kinda slow ('18 GT)

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  1. Zathras

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    Only been driving it a few days, but I notice the steering ratio on my new GT seems slower than I expected (and feels slower than my '11 GT). To make a sharp curve or 90 degree corner takes more steering input than I expected for this type of car. A Motor Trend comparison showed a 16.0:1 steering ratio for the '18 Mustang, which is practically family car territory. Anyone else feel like Ford should tweak this to bring it more in line with other sporty cars? (Typically a 13 or 14 ratio.)

    I don't know if PP1 or PP2 makes any difference here, as I think they all get the same rack. My car is "base" suspension & tires.
     
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    Doesn't seem to be the case on my '17, but I've also done a few suspension mods and wheels/tires and I'm on the PP shocks. I'm usually driving around in normal mode and sometimes switch to sport. Comfort is too light.
     
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    Don't you have the steering mode options on the base?
     
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    Yeah, I have the Sport and Track modes, and they make the steering effort higher, but I don't think that affects the actual ratio, just the effort level. I could be wrong.
     
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    Yeah, it's not variable ratio.
     
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    Never really thought about it but now that you mention it, yea it does seem a little disconnected. My 06 seemed more direct.
     
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    Compare to my WRX which feels like a nervous rat, my GT is more of a boat.
     
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    While I would really like a quicker ratio driving around parking lots and such (or even autocrossing), when handling the car at the limit with some speed, like on a track, I really appreciate it being a tad slower. It makes it easier to correct without overdoing it. Seems like a good thing for non-expert folk.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I personally think having a slower rack allow more precise grip control. A fast rack makes the under steer come much sooner.
     
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    What the steering ratio for the GT350..?
     
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    16.5:1 vs 16:1 on the GT
    My WRX is 14.4:1 and I love how fast it changes direction.
     
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    The ratio on the PP2 is perfect. Still not sure what it is though.
     
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    Nanashii, could you PM me please?
     
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    I totally agree. I took it out for its first autocross the day after i bought it and the steering was perfect, even for a very tight and low speed course.
     
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    The biggest annoyance I have with the new Mustangs 2015+, is their lack of steering feel. Their EAS system is shit. Don't know how Ford engineers figured that a vague connection to the road is what Mustang owners wanted.
     
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    It's not so much of vagueness but more looseness. Too much play dead center.
     
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    Play around dead center can be easily corrected by an alignment to adjust the front toe.
     
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    EPAS......

    Most electric steering systems are missing feedback, and that's precisely what Ford wants, 0 feed-back. Actual steering feel or feed-back also includes things like steering wheel shudder, tramlining, shake from imbalanced front wheels, etc. EPAS filters out everything so people don't complain repeatedly about all those things. Since Mustang owners are populated with over-emotional, obsessive freaks who complain about everything, Ford just went ahead and killed all steering feel to not have the complaints.

    It's your tires.
     
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    No, the earlier versions of EPAS are just shit. They mention revised and improved EPAS in the Shelby GT350 and 2018+ cars. They knew their steering was garbage and are trying to improve on it.
     
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