Steeda intake cover.

[BOBS550]

Good luck , I made a few different lids it will help. But I finally sold mine, going with a closed box.

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[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

Yesterday cruising around, I was consistently within 5-6° of ambient.

I'm more and more happy with the results.

 

[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

Not super pretty

 

[Todd15Fastback]

[MENTION=10893]David@Steeda[/MENTION] check this out.

We need you to chat with the engineering team and get them to work on a cover for your CAI ASAP. These drop in IAT temps are awesome.


Great job, armykyle :first:

 

[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

[MENTION=10893]David@Steeda[/MENTION] check this out.

We need you to chat with the engineering team and get them to work on a cover for your CAI ASAP. These drop in IAT temps are awesome.


Great job, armykyle :first:

Thank you! I'm really happy with the results. It's much quiter too. I didn't realize how noisy the open filter was.

 

[David@Steeda]

[MENTION=10893]David@Steeda[/MENTION] check this out.

We need you to chat with the engineering team and get them to work on a cover for your CAI ASAP. These drop in IAT temps are awesome.


Great job, armykyle :first:

I will relay it to the team!

 

[Todd15Fastback]

I will relay it to the team!

:cheers:

 

[Ramen]

I will relay it to the team!

I'd buy a cover no doubt. Would help big time in SoFla.

 

[armykyle1 [HACKED ACCOUNT]

I'd buy a cover no doubt. Would help big time in SoFla.

We're in the same boat as far as Temps go.

 

[DetroitGT]

Very nice work on the fabrication... but if you wanted a covered setup, why not just sell the Steeda and get the Injen or Airraid that was actually built that way? Seems like a hassle to ultimately build something that isn't going to be as good as one that was built that way.

 

[GTBOB]

I have the Injen and the fit and finish is actually really nice. Nothing cheesy at all. IATs are overall pretty stable both in traffic and open road conditions.

 

[cobrakid]

buy a $7 Rubber Maid black trash can at Lowes.... 2 big sides to cut out from.
Works great, I have cut them up for several home-made ram air intakes etc.

just my 2 cents. YOU don't really need a clear lid on the airbox, as it will get scratched and dirty.

...OR, maybe just put the backing tape the whole way around it "under" so it looks solid/uniform.

they do help IATs.

 

[David@Steeda]

Hi everyone, I touched-base with the team on the idea of a closed box and it turns out we already explored this option.

In our testing, we found the IAT’s at cruise to be almost the same with the closed air box versus the open box.

What people fail to say, is with the closed air box it takes much longer for the temps to come down when compared to the open air box. From idle to cruise, the closed air box retains more heat and takes longer to come down to 5-6 degrees within ambient temperature than the Steeda air box. Why? Because the closed intake gets heat soaked.

When you put a lid on the CAI, you're not realizing that you're restricting air flow to the top portion of the filter, therefore reducing hp. The CAI was not designed to have a lid, it was designed for the hood to create the seal. If you look at the GT350 it has an open element design so it can flow as much air as the Steeda CAI and other open element CAI's. The closed box was designed for the carbon trap emissions regulation - that’s it. Our CAI’s will be CARB-approved in the near future and we will be incorporating the carbon trap into the intake tube. Once you narrow the gap from the lid to the filter, you start to restrict air flow and in turn reduce hp.

On another note, the Steeda CAI intake tube has the largest inside diameter out of them all, therefore creating less restriction through the intake tube itself.

In closing, it’s usually a good idea to call the manufacturer to get additional info as to why in this case we designed and engineered the product a certain way. When designing our CAI and exploring the option of a closed box, we tested for days upon days under the same conditions - the open element design performed better. When it came down to which design to go with, we went with the design that gave maximum performance and delivered the most hp to the rear tires as possible.

If anyone has tech questions, please reach out to me and we can coordinate.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Hi everyone, I touched-base with the team on the idea of a closed box and it turns out we already explored this option.

In our testing, we found the IAT’s at cruise to be almost the same with the closed air box versus the open box.

What people fail to say, is with the closed air box it takes much longer for the temps to come down when compared to the open air box. From idle to cruise, the closed air box retains more heat and takes longer to come down to 5-6 degrees within ambient temperature than the Steeda air box. Why? Because the closed intake gets heat soaked.

When you put a lid on the CAI, you're not realizing that you're restricting air flow to the top portion of the filter, therefore reducing hp. The CAI was not designed to have a lid, it was designed for the hood to create the seal. If you look at the GT350 it has an open element design so it can flow as much air as the Steeda CAI and other open element CAI's. The closed box was designed for the carbon trap emissions regulation - that’s it. Our CAI’s will be CARB-approved in the near future and we will be incorporating the carbon trap into the intake tube. Once you narrow the gap from the lid to the filter, you start to restrict air flow and in turn reduce hp.

On another note, the Steeda CAI intake tube has the largest inside diameter out of them all, therefore creating less restriction through the intake tube itself.

In closing, it’s usually a good idea to call the manufacturer to get additional info as to why in this case we designed and engineered the product a certain way. When designing our CAI and exploring the option of a closed box, we tested for days upon days under the same conditions - the open element design performed better. When it came down to which design to go with, we went with the design that gave maximum performance and delivered the most hp to the rear tires as possible.

If anyone has tech questions, please reach out to me and we can coordinate.

Thanks, David!! Great info you shared. As someone else posted in the PMAS thread, it seems the whole IAT thing is getting blown out of proportion. I think I agree, too. Especially running my car in the heat this weekend and flogging it hard. Performance never dropped but I am on e85, so that helps along with my 170 degree thermostat.

I love the CAI and put it to the test over the weekend in hot as 90+ degree weather during a mountain run. Car performed amazing in every way.

 

[GTBOB]

Hi everyone, I touched-base with the team on the idea of a closed box and it turns out we already explored this option.

In our testing, we found the IAT’s at cruise to be almost the same with the closed air box versus the open box.

What people fail to say, is with the closed air box it takes much longer for the temps to come down when compared to the open air box. From idle to cruise, the closed air box retains more heat and takes longer to come down to 5-6 degrees within ambient temperature than the Steeda air box. Why? Because the closed intake gets heat soaked.

When you put a lid on the CAI, you're not realizing that you're restricting air flow to the top portion of the filter, therefore reducing hp. The CAI was not designed to have a lid, it was designed for the hood to create the seal. If you look at the GT350 it has an open element design so it can flow as much air as the Steeda CAI and other open element CAI's. The closed box was designed for the carbon trap emissions regulation - that’s it. Our CAI’s will be CARB-approved in the near future and we will be incorporating the carbon trap into the intake tube. Once you narrow the gap from the lid to the filter, you start to restrict air flow and in turn reduce hp.

On another note, the Steeda CAI intake tube has the largest inside diameter out of them all, therefore creating less restriction through the intake tube itself.

In closing, it’s usually a good idea to call the manufacturer to get additional info as to why in this case we designed and engineered the product a certain way. When designing our CAI and exploring the option of a closed box, we tested for days upon days under the same conditions - the open element design performed better. When it came down to which design to go with, we went with the design that gave maximum performance and delivered the most hp to the rear tires as possible.

If anyone has tech questions, please reach out to me and we can coordinate.

Thank you for your insight on this matter. I do agree that a closed air box does take more time to shed the trapped heat (heat soak) vs. an open box setup BUT at the same time, closed box takes more time to heat up than an open box.:frusty: Open boxes are more prone to fan wash, especially when both fans are being used (A/C on).

As for open boxes flowing more....I strongly disagree. Numerous reports/posts have been made about the maf lbs per minute of air flow being the same between the open/closed boxes. The TB diameter is the choke point NOT if the air box is opened or closed.

I'm not knocking the product you stand by at all. Steeda has some great products. But I do wonder why you implement an aluminum tube right where the maf sensor resides:shrug: I think you could have better control of IATs by simply using a plastic tube in that area. I bet that you would not want to grab that tube after sitting in traffic vs. a plastic tube design.

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