Stage 1 complete kits: Whipple vs Procharger. Owners analysis & review

[Jackson1320]

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[2morrow]

Don’t waist your time with procharger tunes. 100% different experience with a good tuner

As with everything.

One of the things about Procharger that I like is that they offer 2 kits that are CARB certified and have an OE number on them.

OP, have you had any more updates? I understand that this is still a new thing. TIA

 

[Jackson1320]

As with everything.

One of the things about Procharger that I like is that they offer 2 kits that are CARB certified and have an OE number on them.

OP, have you had any more updates? I understand that this is still a new thing. TIA

I have a carb legal p1x kit with a 8rib setup And stage2 intercooler that makes 892whp the car is amazing. But when it has a supply to tune it was crap surging low on power

 

[2morrow]

I have a carb legal p1x kit with a 8rib setup And stage2 intercooler that makes 892whp the car is amazing. But when it has a supply to tune it was crap surging low on power

So if i'm reading this right, the stock tune was surging and low on power correct?

Also, I didn't write my statement correctly.

The Procharger tune would be CARB compliant which is what I like. I currently have an aftermarket tune on the car and I'm sure it will auto fail.

 

[Jackson1320]

So if i'm reading this right, the stock tune was surging and low on power correct?

Also, I didn't write my statement correctly.

The Procharger tune would be CARB compliant which is what I like. I currently have an aftermarket tune on the car and I'm sure it will auto fail.

Yes the car was surging and very low on power with the supplied tune. Once I retuned it the car became a completely different vehicle.
Just save your E.O tune for When it is time to smog

 

[2morrow]

Yes the car was surging and very low on power with the supplied tune. Once I retuned it the car became a completely different vehicle.
Just save your E.O tune for When it is time to smog

For sure man, thanks for the clarification.

What tuner did you go with? Currently I'm tuned with PBD and previous to that Ford Performance.

 

[GreenS550]

UPDATE!!!
When I emailed Procharger and asked which PIDs they wanted me to data log, they sent me a tune update. I also realized that the temp I was looking at was for the trans temp. The IAT has never gone over 15F more than ambient and this included WOT runs!
The new Procharger tune was absolutely EXCELLENT. Shifting and power were amazing. I have yet to get a dyno rune done. I hope to do this in the next 2 weeks and compare it to the Whipple stage 1.
I have to say at this point my opinion has radically changed. From the install (less than 1/2 the time) vs the Whipple to the IATs, to the driveablilty at this point I would to the Procharger over the Whipple. The driveability is really good. The 2nd and 3rd (sometimes) shifts has the car going sideways on my 265s. Just great power for only 6.5 PSI!

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I have a carb legal p1x kit with a 8rib setup And stage2 intercooler that makes 892whp the car is amazing. But when it has a supply to tune it was crap surging low on power

Can you post up the details of the 8 rib conversion with the carb compliant kit? Video would be awesome and part numbers would help. I bet there is some folks interested in that setup.

 

[01gt46]

UPDATE!!!
When I emailed Procharger and asked which PIDs they wanted me to data log, they sent me a tune update. I also realized that the temp I was looking at was for the trans temp. The IAT has never gone over 15F more than ambient and this included WOT runs!
The new Procharger tune was absolutely EXCELLENT. Shifting and power were amazing. I have yet to get a dyno rune done. I hope to do this in the next 2 weeks and compare it to the Whipple stage 1.
I have to say at this point my opinion has radically changed. From the install (less than 1/2 the time) vs the Whipple to the IATs, to the driveablilty at this point I would to the Procharger over the Whipple. The driveability is really good. The 2nd and 3rd (sometimes) shifts has the car going sideways on my 265s. Just great power for only 6.5 PSI!

Thanks for the update. I was thinking on putting a SC on my 2020 GTPP A10. I don’t drive my car super hard and will probably only go to the drag strip a couple times a year. I was looking at the whipple but it sounds like the Procharger is an excellent option.

 

[Jackson1320]

Can you post up the details of the 8 rib conversion with the carb compliant kit? Video would be awesome and part numbers would help. I bet there is some folks interested in that setup.

H.O kit Part Number: 780-1FW411-SCI
Ati 20% 10rib balancer part# ati-918048
3.6 8rib pulley on the p1x eBay
idler/tensioner pulleys PN12577655.
Mmr water pump pulley Model: 467196
Cobra jet alt pulley sku:02019 at jpc racing
Gates K080915hd
If you use your stock tensioner with the +20% balancer you have to notch a small part, I’ll post a pic ASAP. You can use A low profile tensioner like ARS9600-01BNP or equivalent.
If you use the stock,10%, or 15% balancer There’s no tensioner change or modification needed

 

[Jackson1320]

For sure man, thanks for the clarification.

What tuner did you go with? Currently I'm tuned with PBD and previous to that Ford Performance.

I would use Lund or PBD if I was gonna order a tune. I would use AED in Sacramento area for a dyno tune.
Currently I tune my own car with hptuners

 

[GreenS550]

Thanks for the update. I was thinking on putting a SC on my 2020 GTPP A10. I don’t drive my car super hard and will probably only go to the drag strip a couple times a year. I was looking at the whipple but it sounds like the Procharger is an excellent option.

Yes. Knowing what I know now, I would have done a Procharger on the Bullitt. I love the way the power comes on. It does have more torque right off the line. Not like a PD blower (Whipple, Roush, etc), but I am guessing maybe 50 more ft/lbs of torque? Anyhow the combination of the A10 and the Procharger seems a match made just for the Mustang. At this point I don't want a custom tune. If that is your desire I would do the tuner kit.

In removing the sound tube I also notice the car is quieter inside the cabin and you really cannot hear the blower unless standing outside and then that little whistle is pretty cool. My dyno apt is Oct 2nd and I will report and/or post the sheet on this site. So far, excellent.
If you are doing your own install, the Procharger is much easier and quicker. Whipple is OK. But you have significantly more stuff to do.

Since you have the PP1, you have the same gear I have (355) and this blower works great with it. But you also have the strut tower brace and with the Procharger you do not have to remove it.

 

[01gt46]

Yes. Knowing what I know now, I would have done a Procharger on the Bullitt. I love the way the power comes on. It does have more torque right off the line. Not like a PD blower (Whipple, Roush, etc), but I am guessing maybe 50 more ft/lbs of torque? Anyhow the combination of the A10 and the Procharger seems a match made just for the Mustang. At this point I don't want a custom tune. If that is your desire I would do the tuner kit.

In removing the sound tube I also notice the car is quieter inside the cabin and you really cannot hear the blower unless standing outside and then that little whistle is pretty cool. My dyno apt is Oct 2nd and I will report and/or post the sheet on this site. So far, excellent.
If you are doing your own install, the Procharger is much easier and quicker. Whipple is OK. But you have significantly more stuff to do.

Since you have the PP1, you have the same gear I have (355) and this blower works great with it. But you also have the strut tower brace and with the Procharger you do not have to remove it.

Good luck on the 2nd. Keep us posted.

 

[ProChargerTECH]

UPDATE!!!
When I emailed Procharger and asked which PIDs they wanted me to data log, they sent me a tune update. I also realized that the temp I was looking at was for the trans temp. The IAT has never gone over 15F more than ambient and this included WOT runs!
The new Procharger tune was absolutely EXCELLENT. Shifting and power were amazing. I have yet to get a dyno rune done. I hope to do this in the next 2 weeks and compare it to the Whipple stage 1.
I have to say at this point my opinion has radically changed. From the install (less than 1/2 the time) vs the Whipple to the IATs, to the driveablilty at this point I would to the Procharger over the Whipple. The driveability is really good. The 2nd and 3rd (sometimes) shifts has the car going sideways on my 265s. Just great power for only 6.5 PSI!

Thanks for the update. We love working through issues with customers to make sure they are happy.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Wait what happened to the post about the Charter warranty not covering power train?

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