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SCT vs COBB vs LMS??

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Some of that is brought on by themselves and the way they carry themselves and post....
They used to post a lot, and give updates. Now it's rare, maybe a few times per week. They were chased off, which is a shame. Even if their posts might seem boasting or arrogant sometimes, they still provided a lot of information.

Also, trying to complain that "they posted they were the fastest EB F150, but actually it was..." is dumb. What metrics are being used? Tune only? Bolt ons? Full turbo upgrade, weight reduction, and tires? I can understand being upset at people presenting false information, but a company posting about how great their product is is something else. Of course they will argue it, every tuning company will try to boast their product is either the best/one of the best.
 

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Btw, im not a lms supporter. I was just saying they had an f150 that ran 12.8 in 2012, but no one running their tune could come close to that time.
 

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Yet they don't have the world's quickest EB F150....that belongs to Mike & JR at MPT in Orlando FL. For those who don't know, Mike is one of the original founders/software guys of SCT. I know they have an EBM in house, but haven't heard a peep from them about tunes....yet.
Oh trust me, they're working on it lol.

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I'm waiting for the FRPP tune. I had one on my Focus ST and it was as good or better than any of the aftermarket tunes available. They have access to technology and information that no aftermarket tuner can touch.
 

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I'm waiting for the FRPP tune. I had one on my Focus ST and it was as good or better than any of the aftermarket tunes available. They have access to technology and information that no aftermarket tuner can touch.
Did you compare it to someone else's tune since you made that statement?
 

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I'm waiting for the FRPP tune. I had one on my Focus ST and it was as good or better than any of the aftermarket tunes available. They have access to technology and information that no aftermarket tuner can touch.

I guess the Focus ST must be a unique situation then because I don't know anyone that would say that about the 2011+ GTs.
 

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Did you compare it to someone else's tune since you made that statement?
Personally? No, I didn't have multiple tunes. It has been compared multiple times on Focusst.org. You can go there and read all about it. A perfect example from the Focus ST is spark plugs. FRPP required cooler running plugs with their tune and none of the aftermarket tuners even recommended them until AFTER FRPP did. Now they all recommend them... Go figure. Don't kid yourself if you think aftermarket tuners know more about your car than FRPP. :ford:

But hey it's your car, do with it as you please.
 

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Personally? No, I didn't have multiple tunes. It has been compared multiple times on Focusst.org. You can go there and read all about it. A perfect example from the Focus ST is spark plugs. FRPP required cooler running plugs with their tune and none of the aftermarket tuners even recommended them until AFTER FRPP did. Now they all recommend them... Go figure. Don't kid yourself if you think aftermarket tuners know more about your car than FRPP. :ford:

But hey it's your car, do with it as you please.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree...
 

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree...
No worries! I don't want to fight with anyone, because it doesn't really matter in the end. I have a 660 hp GT500 and had a Focus ST with FRPP tunes and I have had zero issues. I'm not bashing any aftermarket tuners, even though it may sound that way. I just wanted to offer up some different options.
 

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Most tuners probably assume it's common knowledge. You should go at least one range colder on any tuned car, especially forced induction. I'm actually surprised at the amount of people that don't know that.

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Well...I can see to a degree making the assumptions that on a fi car from the factory it already has the cooler plug in it....
 

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Most tuners probably assume it's common knowledge. You should go at least one range colder on any tuned car, especially forced induction. I'm actually surprised at the amount of people that don't know that.

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A good tuner would require them with their tune, or at least have a recommendation when purchasing the tune. So far I have not seen any aftermarket tuners make such recommendations for the EB mustang. Maybe they are not needed. We should comprare the plugs on the ST to the mustang and see what we are dealing with.
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