Adamone92
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im not sure if this is common with anyone. But it happened to me and i wanted to put a PSA out for any future people putting on boundary opg and crank sprockets.
The opg seems fine to me. No biggie there. But the crank sprocket timing mark was off by TWO teeth. How did i find this out? I installed them, finished installing my Odin kit, cranked my car, and boom. P0019 and eventually p0016 codes. For reference, these codes are camshaft/crankshaft correlation codes. After looking at my logs, my exhaust and intake readings on both banks were around 32-36. I was shocked, as i took my time, followed directions to a T, and rechecked my timing was right about 10 times before putting it back together.
So, angrily, i took it apart again to find the issue. One i got it down to the chains again, everything looked fine. I tried re-doing the timing, but my keyway position always seemed a hair off compared to pictures and videos i watched. I couldnt figure out why and figured maybe i DID mess up somewhere.
While pondering where i could have gone wrong, i started to wonder about the crank sprocket marks themselves. So i took off the boundary one to compare it to the factory one, and to my disappointment it was marked 2 teeth differently than the factory one. Both have a total of 21 teeth (obviously), but the boundary one is 11 teeth from keyway to timing mark, whereas the factory one was 13. I marked my boundary sprocket 2 teeth later to match, and magically everything lined up exactly as they should.
I did all of this a few days ago. Finally had a chance to put it all together again and crank her up today and log, and my timing looks spot on. No codes, no check engine lights. I wanted to make sure of this before making this post. So for anyone using boundary..or I suppose any other aftermarket gear..make sure you compare it to your factory mark.
I know i should have "trusted but verified" as we always say in the military. But i trusted their mark and went with it originally. So yes, i admit part of it is my fault. But its very frustrating that i had to do everything over again (including removing all of odin since it is huge), due to a mistake on their part. Additionally, while redoing everything, my crank bolt got stuck and stripped a couple threads in my crankshaft. I had to tap it to fix it. Another thing that could have been avoided due to this.
Below are pictures of the boundary marks, how my chains looked using them, a log showing my timing was off, and then my marks i made to match factory, and my now seemingly spot on timing (its the exact same as my logs from stock, so i assume its 100%)
Sorry if this is known. But i havent seen anything about it, and didnt want the same thing to happen to someone else. Luckily i dont seem to have damaged anything, but could i have? I dont know. Im very disappointed with this company and knowing i spent money and a lot of time and energy on their mismarked part.
Before: Bad marks off 2 teeth
The opg seems fine to me. No biggie there. But the crank sprocket timing mark was off by TWO teeth. How did i find this out? I installed them, finished installing my Odin kit, cranked my car, and boom. P0019 and eventually p0016 codes. For reference, these codes are camshaft/crankshaft correlation codes. After looking at my logs, my exhaust and intake readings on both banks were around 32-36. I was shocked, as i took my time, followed directions to a T, and rechecked my timing was right about 10 times before putting it back together.
So, angrily, i took it apart again to find the issue. One i got it down to the chains again, everything looked fine. I tried re-doing the timing, but my keyway position always seemed a hair off compared to pictures and videos i watched. I couldnt figure out why and figured maybe i DID mess up somewhere.
While pondering where i could have gone wrong, i started to wonder about the crank sprocket marks themselves. So i took off the boundary one to compare it to the factory one, and to my disappointment it was marked 2 teeth differently than the factory one. Both have a total of 21 teeth (obviously), but the boundary one is 11 teeth from keyway to timing mark, whereas the factory one was 13. I marked my boundary sprocket 2 teeth later to match, and magically everything lined up exactly as they should.
I did all of this a few days ago. Finally had a chance to put it all together again and crank her up today and log, and my timing looks spot on. No codes, no check engine lights. I wanted to make sure of this before making this post. So for anyone using boundary..or I suppose any other aftermarket gear..make sure you compare it to your factory mark.
I know i should have "trusted but verified" as we always say in the military. But i trusted their mark and went with it originally. So yes, i admit part of it is my fault. But its very frustrating that i had to do everything over again (including removing all of odin since it is huge), due to a mistake on their part. Additionally, while redoing everything, my crank bolt got stuck and stripped a couple threads in my crankshaft. I had to tap it to fix it. Another thing that could have been avoided due to this.
Below are pictures of the boundary marks, how my chains looked using them, a log showing my timing was off, and then my marks i made to match factory, and my now seemingly spot on timing (its the exact same as my logs from stock, so i assume its 100%)
Sorry if this is known. But i havent seen anything about it, and didnt want the same thing to happen to someone else. Luckily i dont seem to have damaged anything, but could i have? I dont know. Im very disappointed with this company and knowing i spent money and a lot of time and energy on their mismarked part.
Before: Bad marks off 2 teeth
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