Procharger question

[Lensync]

Yeah it looks like Beefcake will be getting my $$ lol! He stated above that his prices didn't go up so it must have been my mistake... The one thing I will say is whether it's the Paxton or Procharger you have to go Beefcake special. His kit is just too close to the canned price but you get valuable upgrades... As far as install that's been my biggest problem also. I am going to do it myself and the Procharger looks easier. I just can't find anything on the Paxton install but I hear it's not much more difficult... That being said it sounds like the Paxton is superior to the Procharger as far as base head unit. You can go the d1sc upgrade but the p1sc is already more expensive than the Paxton by a good margin. I started off Procharger but I'm leaning to the Paxton big time right now regardless of install... Procharger has install pros.. But the cons for me are Vegas heat, so by what Procharger told me on the phone go stage 2 intercooler. ($295) also helical gear because the straight are loud ($95) the Paxton already has the larger intercooler included at a much better price point. (I don't know about the helical in the Paxton) But it can't be that much harder as far is the install to save a lot of $$$$$$

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[al3x]

Yeah it looks like Beefcake will be getting my $$ lol! He stated above that his prices didn't go up so it must have been my mistake... The one thing I will say is whether it's the Paxton or Procharger you have to go Beefcake special. His kit is just too close to the canned price but you get valuable upgrades... As far as install that's been my biggest problem also. I am going to do it myself and the Procharger looks easier. I just can't find anything on the Paxton install but I hear it's not much more difficult... That being said it sounds like the Paxton is superior to the Procharger as far as base head unit. You can go the d1sc upgrade but the p1sc is already more expensive than the Paxton by a good margin.

Yeah I might just go above my budget and get the procharger with lund tune and ngauge beefcake special, because I am pretty sure that is an installation I can actually accomplish myself. And i really want that sense of accomplishment! Haha

 

[JohnG]

I don't think you can go wrong either way, but I love my Paxton. I hurt some feelings at the 1/2 mile event I attended. I beat a friend's tuned 2014 Viper, a 12 GT500 with upgraded blower, another GT500 that I don't know anything about, and I ran right next to an S197 with the On3 twin turbo set-up. I ended up besting a Procharged S550 by 10 mph (didn't race side-by-side and I don't know what his exact set-up is, but his best was 155 and I went 165).

The Paxton kit is likely more time consuming to install, but I wouldn't call it difficult.

 

[18psi]

I personally really wanted to get a procharger setup, mainly for ease of install, no permanent modifications to the car, and I do like the way the centri's deliver power, but after I've seen the way they treat potential issues/defects - I'm really not so sure. Basically if anything ever goes wrong, their answer is: it's literally impossible for anything to be defective and you must have installed it wrong and it's all your fault. I've searched around the forum and am really repulsed by the way they handle these sort of issues. And if you install it yourself, you're on your own.

I am now looking at Paxton/vortech and keeping my eyes open for how issues (or even potential issues, or alleged issues) are handled and the way they treat their customers.

Cause aside from the slightly easier install, the Paxton is actually more appealing than a PC:
Base head units are bigger
Bigger intercooler
They are "quiet" without having to pay extra
They don't seem to have any issues with collapsing inlets
Beefcake special takes care of the fueling and tuning part which is apparently worlds better than the base injectors and tunes these kits come with so that's a non-issue

Just some thoughts

 

[al3x]

I personally really wanted to get a procharger setup, mainly for ease of install, no permanent modifications to the car, and I do like the way the centri's deliver power, but after I've seen the way they treat potential issues/defects - I'm really not so sure. Basically if anything ever goes wrong, their answer is: it's literally impossible for anything to be defective and you must have installed it wrong and it's all your fault. I've searched around the forum and am really repulsed by the way they handle these sort of issues. And if you install it yourself, you're on your own.

I am now looking at Paxton/vortech and keeping my eyes open for how issues (or even potential issues, or alleged issues) are handled and the way they treat their customers.

Cause aside from the slightly easier install, the Paxton is actually more appealing than a PC:
Base head units are bigger
Bigger intercooler
They are "quiet" without having to pay extra
They don't seem to have any issues with collapsing inlets
Beefcake special takes care of the fueling and tuning part which is apparently worlds better than the base injectors and tunes these kits come with so that's a non-issue

Just some thoughts

Yeah, the Paxton seems to be great and the better deal, I would go with that one if I can obtain the necessary tools for it. And definitely want the beefcake special with Lund tune and ngauge for sure

 

[Lensync]

I agree with 18psi.... I've read some nightmare threads about PC customer service... They did get resolved but it seemed harder than it needed to be. Then the issues with the collapsing intake pipes plus you have to pay more for the quite gears or stage 2 intercooler... Paxton comes with bigger head unit, bigger intercooler etc... You can get these on the PC but you have to upgrade... Haha PC is already hundreds of dollars more before having to upgrade to what Paxton offers as base. Don't get me wrong though... I think PC makes a beautiful kit and I don't blame anyone for choosing them as I still might. But as of now I can't see any justification for such a price difference. I just haven't seen any bad posts on the Paxton kit as far as reliability and hardware.

 

[smokinzx14r]

I like my Procharger , I got a killer deal on it an could not pass up the price ..True I did have a tune problem with Prochargers tune they sent me .. So far no problems with the intake tube sucking in.. If I had to do it over would still go with a procharger but I would order the tuner kit , add the ID1000 injectors and BAP an get a custom tuned to start with ..Ease of install and not cutting anything was a big plus for me ..Plus it runs mid tens

 

[al3x]

I'm leaning towards the paxton if it's the same install as the vortech because I found the installation manual online for the vortech and it doesn't seem too terribly difficult to accomplish. I know the Procharger would be the easiest to install so there's that as well. I guess it might simply come down to what I think would end up making me happier, saving a bit of money or not dealing with a more difficult installation

 

[Lensync]

Smokinzx14r.. Thanks for the input.. I've followed your thread and you experiences have been valuable to me. Plus your car kicks ass! I actually wanted to pm you on your set up. Is it the HO kit with the HO intercooler or stage 2? I'm in Vegas and I'm concerned with heat. If the HO intercooler does a great job then it changes some things for me.

 

[smokinzx14r]

Smokinzx14r.. Thanks for the input.. I've followed your thread and you experiences have been valuable to me. Plus your car kicks ass! I actually wanted to pm you on your set up. Is it the HO kit with the HO intercooler or stage 2? I'm in Vegas and I'm concerned with heat. If the HO intercooler does a great job then it changes some things for me.

Mine is the HO Kit ..It has the smaller intercooler .. What I added was a 3.50 pulley ,ID1000 injectors, Bap and custom tune .. I went 10.80s without the smaller pulley and Injectors and Bap ..It should be in the mid to low 10s with the set up I have now ..

FL is not Vegas for sure , but I see temps in the high 90s here and humidity to match and my intake temps stay 1 to 2 deg over the outside temps .. So the intercooler does a very good job .. But bigger is always better , so a stage two intercooler surely be better for you in Vegas ..

 

[smokinzx14r]

One thing I should tell you guys is the money I spent with a custom tune ( dyno tune ) by a well known local tuner was the best money I ever spent .. The money I paid Procharger tune was a waste , but Procharger made up for the tune problem with extra parts they sent me .. The money I spent with Beefcake and Lund was for me a waste of time and money for me .. Same for Bama , they got in my pocket also .. I would have saved way over a grand if just gone with a tuner kit and custom tune to start with ..Lesson leaned for me... So do your home work and don't let the vendors fill head with pie in the sky talk .. Remember they are here to sell you stuff , lots of stuff ..They are not here to be your best friend and hold your hand when you have a problem ..

 

[sanchezcruz_20]

Hopefully this is a relatively easy question to answer. I was thinking of buying a ProCharger stage 2 complete system and installing myself, but I am not sure if I need anything else. Do I, or SHOULD I, buy new spark plugs? Or anything else like the oil pump gears or anything similar? This would be my first time doing forced induction on a car so I don't have any experience, just what I happen to catch on this forum. I would also only be on the procharger tune, and not racing, just WOT every once in a while for some fun. And car will have around 8-9k miles

Thanks!

Grab yourself some injectors and you'll be good for a little WOT action.

Paxton would fit my budget and probably be a better bang for the buck but I'm not entirely confident I could install it myself, and paying an extra $1000 or more for installation makes the procharger fit my budget more, plus the sense of accomplishment from having installed it myself haha

Nothing compares to doing it yourself and coupled with complete reversibility... I was sold. The install is part of the fun! Do it yourself!

The instructions for the paxton are online but I haven't been able to find the procharger instructions to compare. I basically looked at the paxton tools list and didn't have everything though. I'll have to find whatever tools I don't have on amazon if I can

Send me your email, I'll send you a copy of the Procharger install manual. It's simple and step by step. The tool list for the Procharger is ridiculously simple.

I've had a very positive experience with the Procharger, both the hardware and customer service. With that being said, my setup isn't gonna break world records with respect to horsepower levels, which is important to many.

But I honestly can't figure out how people with 600+ rwhp on a daily driver are getting that power to the ground (without drag radials) because even at 555rwhp I'm at the limits of traction. So for me and my application (not racing, WOT fun, annihilating 98% of cars on the road), the power levels are more than adequate and the Procharger has been an excellent choice.

Plus, the Procharger placement in the engine bay looks so natural and has a factory look. There's still space in the engine compartment. The head unit and tubing is piped nicely and neatly tucked away. It LOOKS so much better to me than the other systems.



You have some great choices out there.

 

[al3x]

It would be awesome to look at the installation manual, email is [email protected]

Do you know if the H.O. installation differs from the stage 2 installation?

 

[sanchezcruz_20]

It would be awesome to look at the installation manual, email is [email protected]

Do you know if the H.O. installation differs from the stage 2 installation?

Yes it will. Since the Stage II kit has the dedicated drive system. I believe the manual has both systems.

I wouldn't think it would be any more or less difficult, however. In fact, it may be easier concerning belt routing haha.

Email sent.

 

[al3x]

Yes it will. Since the Stage II kit has the dedicated drive system. I believe the manual has both systems.

I wouldn't think it would be any more or less difficult, however. In fact, it may be easier concerning belt routing haha.

Email sent.

Yes, the email also contained the stage 2 manual, thanks a lot! The tools list makes me want to pull the trigger on the stage 2 already haha. But now after inquiring around, I have a friend who's dad has been working on mustangs longer than I've been alive and has a full garage so now even a PD blower I may consider haha. Decisions, decisions

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