Procharger D1SC eats rubber inlet...

[18psi]

Not trolling here but their response seems pretty legitimate. If they are selling tons of these kits and have no reported failures except for 1 or 2, that does not indicate there is an issue with the product. And if you're using something not supplied by them it's ridiculous to assume they should warranty anything. That would be like trying to get Ford to warranty your aftermarket exhaust.

Is it concerning? Sure it is...but this doesn't mean all PC superchargers have an issue and their response was far from insulting or demeaning. Honestly Boost Works should have talked to PC before advertising they are offering a replacement product in order to avoid a conflict of interest.

This discussion isn't about the previous one that was apparently aftermarket.
This discussion is about the current original part.

He's claiming install error without even making a lick of effort to confirm this to be the case.

What if your engine blew up, and before even inspecting it, Ford said: NOPE, not our fault, can't be, there are a million non-blown up units on the road today, it's virtually impossible for your engine to blow up.

You'd be ok with that?

Wow, on the response post from PC...they make a part that has room for a small amount of user error (trim a hose) and when it fails they blame the user who followed their directions... I've been really leaning towards PC but this response may push me in a different direction.

+1 this is exactly how I feel.
I'd never buy from a company that doesn't even try to research the failure. Just blame everything under the sun and never even ponder the possibility of a faulty/defective design/part.

They have the customers thousands of dollars, everything else is irrelevant.

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[Evolvd]

This discussion isn't about the previous one that was apparently aftermarket.
This discussion is about the current original part.

He's claiming install error without even making a lick of effort to confirm this to be the case.

What if your engine blew up, and before even inspecting it, Ford said: NOPE, not our fault, can't be, there are a million non-blown up units on the road today, it's virtually impossible for your engine to blow up.

You'd be ok with that?

Straw man argument, also Ford installs their own parts in their own cars. If you go buy a Ford Racing supercharger and install it yourself you think they are going to warranty it? LOL good luck.

And you're assuming they've made no effort to rule out other possibilities. But it's ok for folks to jump on the "Screw ProCharger bandwagon" with no questions?

 

[18psi]

Straw man argument, also Ford installs their own parts in their own cars. If you go buy a Ford Racing supercharger and install it yourself you think they are going to warranty it? LOL good luck.

Ford Racing =/= Ford.

Didn't know there were still people out there that actually didn't know this.
And this is my 1st Ford.

*edit: I'm not assuming. he did it right in this thread.

do you know how to read? he says "I encourage the dealer to contact me" then goes "install error" in the same post.

 

[Evolvd]

Wow, on the response post from PC...they make a part that has room for a small amount of user error (trim a hose) and when it fails they blame the user who followed their directions... I've been really leaning towards PC but this response may push me in a different direction.

That's assuming a lot isn't it? Do you know the user followed the directions? You don't, you have their word...and in the automotive world, there's quite a bit of liberty taken when describing how things "actually" happened.

 

[18psi]

It's easy to stir the pot and troll for the sake of argument.

Believe it or not, some of us are actually saving up for forced induction and paying careful attention to these threads and the way different companies respond and support their product.

That will be my last response to you, since I actually want to keep this on topic.

 

[Evolvd]

Ford Racing =/= Ford.

Didn't know there were still people out there that actually didn't know this.
And this is my 1st Ford.

*edit: I'm not assuming. he did it right in this thread.

do you know how to read? he says "I encourage the dealer to contact me" then goes "install error" in the same post.

LOL and you are accusing me of not being able to read? Where did I say Ford Racing was Ford? I didn't, you took it upon yourself to assume something that wasn't said.

No I don't know how to read...hence why I made a response to your post....because I'm illiterate...in fact I have a mangy dog typing this for me because I don't know how to read.

And believe it or not, I'm also saving up for FI. But I also don't let ONE single occurrence of a failure dictate which product I will buy.

But yes, back on topic...Procharger, in its best interest, should talk to Boost Works and troublshoot the issue. Boost Works, should not resort to advertising a product they are developing in the same post concerning the failure of a competitor's product.

 

[foghat]

Wow, on the response post from PC...they make a part that has room for a small amount of user error (trim a hose) and when it fails they blame the user who followed their directions... I've been really leaning towards PC but this response may push me in a different direction.

Honestly, I pretty much inline with what procharger is saying. But it is a little concerning that a 'mis-trim' on the tubing could cause this sort of failure.

If BW is able to manufacture a steel unit (or whatever material it will be) that fits properly, why can't the elbow included in the kit come precut to the proper length?

 

[Evolvd]

Honestly, I pretty much inline with what procharger is saying. But it is a little concerning that a 'mis-trim' on the tubing could cause this sort of failure.

If BW is able to manufacture a steel unit (or whatever material it will be) that fits properly, why can't the elbow included in the kit come precut to the proper length?

If I ventured a guess it's probably because no two cars are exactly the same. My Steeda CAI doesn't line up perfectly between the air box and throttle body, but a buddy of mine doesn't have that issue. Also, as noted, the 8-rib setup sits differently than the 6-rib.

 

[desant89]

Regardless of what was posted in here. The company needs to respond professionally. Maybe call Travis, hash it out, and have Travis come back or Procharger come in here themselves and say how they came to a resolution. You can say "one of" or whatever until you are blue in the face (although a 2 minute google search proves otherwise). Regardless of the what the problem is, coming in here with that attitude is not the proper response for a company to have. As you can see, it took a negative affect on many people in here so far, and that list will continue to grow.

 

[daltron]

.....all with a Zero failure rate till now. (and oddly with a dealer, that makes a competing inlet)

I have no experience with them, but they seem like good guys. I'd doubt they'd create a very, very niche product without some customer demand and legit reason to do so. I'm not saying the inlet elbow isn't up to the task or it is or that it's easy to install right or it isn't, but making a dig at them isn't needed IMO.

Just my naturally aspirated two cents.

 

[Sal GT]

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[pilot0987]

This is the first time we have seen this with OUR part.
.....all with a Zero failure rate till now. (and oddly with a dealer, that makes a competing inlet)



Their "competing inlet" came after someone posted pictures of another inlet eating itself. Seems like they saw an opportunity to make something better for the end user, I don't see anything wrong with that.:shrug:

 

[Evolvd]

There's nothing wrong with making upgrades or retrofits or whatever for other people's products. However, there is a conflict of interest when you advertise that fact while showing a "failure" of the part supplied by the company you are designing replacement parts for.

 

[zaquhree]

Big words from Procharger implying BoostWorks has an underlying motive.

Instead of attacking their move to build a superior product why not elaborate on why this is not the first failure seen?

 

[pilot0987]

There's nothing wrong with making upgrades or retrofits or whatever for other people's products. However, there is a conflict of interest when you advertise that fact while showing a "failure" of the part supplied by the company you are designing replacement parts for.

How is it a conflict of interest when they developed the replacement because of the failure in material being used? So by them showing what has happened and showing a solution for it, I don't see that as a conflict of interest, more stating a reason for the idea.

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