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It matters because the gas prices won't stay low for long with a raise in gas tax in the works and all depends on when the saudis decide to bring the prices back up too... for the obama lovers out there.. it had nothing to do with him at all.. just sayin
Gas prices have more to do with supply and demand than whether the saudis decide to jack up prices. I see much less conspiracy here, and more basic economics.

Since petroleum has a very inelastic supply curve, slight shifts in demand have a significant impact on price. Think about it--it's not easy to build a new oil rig, that takes years. It's also very costly to shut one down. The real reason is that global demand has decreased slightly, but enough to have a significant impact on gas prices.

Man this beer is good. Anyway, I'm seeing about 18 MPG with 600 miles on the odomemter in my automatic GT. Pretty much all city though. I see a huge difference during "fun driving" when there is no snow or ice versus slow driving when I'm being careful. We've had some 0 degree days, so I really baby it when it's that cold.
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I've been driving for just over 900 miles now on my GT Premium with PP with 6-speed manual. The fuel economy went up from 10.5 MPG over the past week, so I'm happy I am now getting 10.7 MPG average. Note I live in South Florida with no hills, no cold weather, only use 93 octane ($3.00/gallon in South Florida), and drive only a few feet above sea level. That MPG is a combo of highway and city driving.

Note at $3.00 per gallon, with 15,000 miles driving this year, at this rate I expect to pay $4206 in gas prices for one year. Over the 5 years I am paying on my car, I expect to pay $21028. Over the 7 years I expect to own this car, I expect to pay $29439 if gas prices can remain at $3.00/gallon!

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How the heck is your average so low? City is 15 it says on the site. You're like 5 mpg lower.

I mean are you gunning it everywhere? Not shifting well?
 

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True on that but from the Detroit auto show with the new 3.5ltr v6 ecoboost going into the Ford GT and the new raptor, It's going to be around 450 hp for the raptor and over 600 for the gt.... other than sound, would it really matter with that much hp? & possibly better mpg and I am sure there will be plenty of exhaust mods to get the sound decent almost like the v8
Yes, it matters. Turbocharged engines are less reliable and have a shorter total life; have turbo lag inherent; and deliver non-linear power with little off-idle torque.
 

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How the heck is your average so low? City is 15 it says on the site. You're like 5 mpg lower.

I mean are you gunning it everywhere? Not shifting well?
15 city is optimistic. My city driving involves 50% of my drive time stopped at idle; hitting three - four red lights per mile; and a speed limit the entire trip of 25 mph. 10 mpg is excellent under those conditions. EPA "city" testing is closer to realistic "highway" type driving in congested cities and suburbs.
 

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Yes, it matters. Turbocharged engines are less reliable and have a shorter total life; have turbo lag inherent; and deliver non-linear power with little off-idle torque.
I've owned 5 single turbo and 1 twin turbo vehicle. Not one time have I had a turbo related reliability problem, have never EVER felt "turbo lag", and do 98% of my driving under 5k rpm. I feel like you may need to experience more in life. There are plenty of high mileage VWs running around with the 1.8t and that was one of the worst cars ever made.
 

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Yes, it matters. Turbocharged engines are less reliable and have a shorter total life; have turbo lag inherent; and deliver non-linear power with little off-idle torque.
my last car was a turbo wrx. i had fuel, intake and exhaust upgrades and it was probably pushing 100 hp per cylinder (349hp/366ft/lbs) and was all wheel drive, but it was still running strong when i sold it and was not burning oil at 85k miles.

but i pretty much agree with your statement. i think my car just had a hero motor in it. my other subie friends blew their engines left and right.

back to the topic at hand though. i was able to hit 18mpg today after about 400 miles of mixed but mostly highway miles.

i have a pretty heavy foot as well....
 

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I've owned 5 single turbo and 1 twin turbo vehicle. Not one time have I had a turbo related reliability problem, have never EVER felt "turbo lag", and do 98% of my driving under 5k rpm. I feel like you may need to experience more in life. There are plenty of high mileage VWs running around with the 1.8t and that was one of the worst cars ever made.
Everybody's going to have difference experiences, obviously, but I've known a TON of people who had turbocharged engines die on them well before 100,000 miles, while it's a serious rarity when that happens with a N/A engine. It's just inherent in the additional heat and pressure in the engine. I've admittedly not driven that many turbo'ed gasoline engines, but I have driven factory turbocharged VW, BMW, Subaru, Mitsubishi, and Chevrolet engines, and they all had turbo lag.

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but when I say "off-idle torque," I'm not talking about anything anywhere near 5K rpm. I drove six miles to work today and never got above 1,500 rpms (and never got above 20 mph). At least in an automatic transmission car, I can often keep up with surface traffic just by taking my foot off the brake without touching the gas. That's never been my experience in any turbocharged car.
 

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Everybody's going to have difference experiences, obviously, but I've known a TON of people who had turbocharged engines die on them well before 100,000 miles, while it's a serious rarity when that happens with a N/A engine. It's just inherent in the additional heat and pressure in the engine. I've admittedly not driven that many turbo'ed gasoline engines, but I have driven factory turbocharged VW, BMW, Subaru, Mitsubishi, and Chevrolet engines, and they all had turbo lag.

Also, not to beat a dead horse, but when I say "off-idle torque," I'm not talking about anything anywhere near 5K rpm. I drove six miles to work today and never got above 1,500 rpms (and never got above 20 mph). At least in an automatic transmission car, I can often keep up with surface traffic just by taking my foot off the brake without touching the gas. That's never been my experience in any turbocharged car.

The mustang ecoboost does not have turbo lag. I cross shopped with the Mercedes CLA 250 and the Audi A4 and they both had noticeable turbo lag
 

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The mustang ecoboost does not have turbo lag. I cross shopped with the Mercedes CLA 250 and the Audi A4 and they both had noticeable turbo lag
My dear ecoswag...Don worry... u love ur car ryt... i love my ecoboost ...just relax we need not explain anyone...

When u have a GF u don explain y do u like her..Right... same is with our ponies... u know u love ur pony simple
 

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15 city is optimistic. My city driving involves 50% of my drive time stopped at idle; hitting three - four red lights per mile; and a speed limit the entire trip of 25 mph. 10 mpg is excellent under those conditions. EPA "city" testing is closer to realistic "highway" type driving in congested cities and suburbs.
I don't know Jimmy, there are lots in this thread that have around 20 avg between city/highway with 50% each...some even better. He's got to be shifting in the wrong spots like many in this thread have mentioned...once they got the right shift points their MPG improved dramatically or he's just a lead foot. There are plenty of GTs with the PP getting way above 10.

If I was pulling 10 city, I'd take the car back and tell them to take a look at it.
 

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I've been driving for just over 900 miles now on my GT Premium with PP with 6-speed manual. The fuel economy went up from 10.5 MPG over the past week, so I'm happy I am now getting 10.7 MPG average. Note I live in South Florida with no hills, no cold weather, only use 93 octane ($3.00/gallon in South Florida), and drive only a few feet above sea level. That MPG is a combo of highway and city driving.

Note at $3.00 per gallon, with 15,000 miles driving this year, at this rate I expect to pay $4206 in gas prices for one year. Over the 5 years I am paying on my car, I expect to pay $21028. Over the 7 years I expect to own this car, I expect to pay $29439 if gas prices can remain at $3.00/gallon!

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I'll admit I bought this car for the acceleration performance. I do shift at higher RPMs that somebody who just drives the car without wanting to experience the acceleration benefit of their V8. I generally don't shift into 2nd until over 4000 RPM with my 3.73 gears. Note 4000 RPM is 24 MPH, 5000 RPM is 30 MPH and 6000 RPM is 36 MPH in first. I like the later shift points for the feel of the acceleration. If I didn't want to 'feel' the acceleration because it was not important to me, I would not have spent the extra $$ on the V8. At least I can still buy a V8 and have fun with it, even if it costs extra $$$$ on the gas. :usa:
 

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I'll admit I bought this car for the acceleration performance. I do shift at higher RPMs that somebody who just drives the car without wanting to experience the acceleration benefit of their V8. I generally don't shift into 2nd until over 4000 RPM with my 3.73 gears. Note 4000 RPM is 24 MPH, 5000 RPM is 30 MPH and 6000 RPM is 36 MPH in first. I like the later shift points for the feel of the acceleration. If I didn't want to 'feel' the acceleration because it was not important to me, I would not have spent the extra $$ on the V8. At least I can still buy a V8 and have fun with it, even if it costs extra $$$$ on the gas. :usa:
See now we know...knowing is half the battle. :usa:
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But it's good to know these things...because this explains your MPG. :)
 

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Everybody's going to have difference experiences, obviously, but I've known a TON of people who had turbocharged engines die on them well before 100,000 miles, while it's a serious rarity when that happens with a N/A engine. It's just inherent in the additional heat and pressure in the engine.
You know a TON of people who had their turbo engines die on them? Really? How many people is a TON? I've been driving for over 30 years and can only recall a handfull of people that have ever had an engine just die on them. NA or Turbo. Must really suck to know you.
 

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i know several who blew up their subaru turbo ej25x engines (2.5L Turbo). but that's mostly due to weak piston ringlands.
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