Pondering a purchase......

[CrazyHippie]

60 here and three L4-5 discectomies in the books.

Hmmm......the next one will be a L4,L5,S1 fusion. I'm fused from L3 down to S1 - and I've lost a lot of flexibility. Your entry method is exactly how I do it too.

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[LM700]

Wow. Guys I am overwhelmed and humbled by the amount of information, knowledge, and support you have posted to my simple request, all within just 24 hours. My wife and I are raising 2 grandchildren (9 and 10) since 2016 so our days are hectic and full sometimes especially now that school is on. The amount of information I have read tonight almost makes me feel like I already owned one before. I will take notes and consider all of this as I continue to ponder which way I go. All I know to say is thank you and keep it coming. I'll get one in the near future but now I feel better prepared than I did and will take my time to make a decision. Thank you for being there.


A question comes to mind. Is there a device or product out there that I might locate to use to detect any tuning that may have been done to a prospective car or is that something only a dealer can do? I have seen the name Forscan but have no idea what it actually is. Just wondered.

All my best to all of you.

 

[cerbomark]

I think only a dealer could see evidence of flashes or tunes but I'm not certain.
Kudos s to you on stepping up with the grandkids. I raised one thru high school and now in second year of college.

 

[sk47]

Hello; I have been struggling with cylinder deactivation in V8's lately. Turns out all of the big three (GM, Ford, & Stelantis {Chrysler}) have some form of this on most V8's. GM & Stelantis, as best as I can find out, have troubling records with their systems in pushrod engines. To the point of class action lawsuits. Ford uses overhead cams so their system has to be physically/ mechanically different. I do not know of lawsuits and such with the ford system.

I have looked for a new big three V8 without cylinder deactivation. Only found one option for sure. A 5.7 hemi V8 in a Dodge Challenger can be had without the system if you get a six-speed manual. Get an automatic in the same model and it has their system called MDS. A big drawback, to me, was the manual trans Challenger requires 91 octane gas. The automatic trans Challenger 5.7 V8 can use 87 octane.

Enough background, to the point of this post. My question being how far back do we have to go in Mustang Coyote model years to get one without a cylinder deactivation system?


To the OP, you may not care on way or another about this feature. But it occurred to me it might be worth a mention.

 

[Hoofer]

Hello; I have been struggling with cylinder deactivation in V8's lately. Turns out all of the big three (GM, Ford, & Stelantis {Chrysler}) have some form of this on most V8's. GM & Stelantis, as best as I can find out, have troubling records with their systems in pushrod engines. To the point of class action lawsuits. Ford uses overhead cams so their system has to be physically/ mechanically different. I do not know of lawsuits and such with the ford system.

I have looked for a new big three V8 without cylinder deactivation. Only found one option for sure. A 5.7 hemi V8 in a Dodge Challenger can be had without the system if you get a six-speed manual. Get an automatic in the same model and it has their system called MDS. A big drawback, to me, was the manual trans Challenger requires 91 octane gas. The automatic trans Challenger 5.7 V8 can use 87 octane.

Enough background, to the point of this post. My question being how far back do we have to go in Mustang Coyote model years to get one without a cylinder deactivation system?


To the OP, you may not care on way or another about this feature. But it occurred to me it might be worth a mention.

Start a new thread!

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Hello; I have been struggling with cylinder deactivation in V8's lately. Turns out all of the big three (GM, Ford, & Stelantis {Chrysler}) have some form of this on most V8's. GM & Stelantis, as best as I can find out, have troubling records with their systems in pushrod engines. To the point of class action lawsuits. Ford uses overhead cams so their system has to be physically/ mechanically different. I do not know of lawsuits and such with the ford system.

I have looked for a new big three V8 without cylinder deactivation. Only found one option for sure. A 5.7 hemi V8 in a Dodge Challenger can be had without the system if you get a six-speed manual. Get an automatic in the same model and it has their system called MDS. A big drawback, to me, was the manual trans Challenger requires 91 octane gas. The automatic trans Challenger 5.7 V8 can use 87 octane.

Enough background, to the point of this post. My question being how far back do we have to go in Mustang Coyote model years to get one without a cylinder deactivation system?


To the OP, you may not care on way or another about this feature. But it occurred to me it might be worth a mention.

None of the Coyotes have a cylinder deactivation system.

Again, not to be rude, but why are you commenting in a 6th gen Mustang forum if you've never owned one? You seem way out of your depth with some of your comments here.

 

[speedfrk]

The 15-17's had 2 major problems. First, there was a driveline vibration that they could never solve and that resulted in a lot of lemon law cases. Second, many of those cars had AC problems that required a new evaporator. So, do your due diligence on those years.

Ford redesigned parts of the A10 in 22 so the 23's and up should be good.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10236680-0001.pdf

 

[cerbomark]

to the OP er , you are old enough and probably money wise enough to get the newest one you can afford, lowest mileage, warranty (some part of it at least).
Don t get stuck in analysis paralysis .

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Ford redesigned parts of the A10 in 22 so the 23's and up should be good.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10236680-0001.pdf

There a tons of people having issues on the '22-'23 A10s. Do a search on the forum.

 

[Obiton]

If you’re buying an newish (<36 months) unmodified and keeping it stock, a 10 years 100k miles Ford ESP is only about $2200. I have a 22 PP1 Convertible with MagnaRide, Active Exhaust etc but with the manual transmission. Bought Ext Warranty through Granger before increase this month. Can’t really compare to non MagnaRide, but I can say it is optimal for our use. We really enjoy the Active Exhaust option for quiet starts in the neighborhood and then opening it up on the road. Sometimes there is not much price difference for fully loaded or not. I searched and monitored for months and then got lucky with an our 22 with 13k mile in January for $38k in state. Good luck!

 

[sk47]

None of the Coyotes have a cylinder deactivation system.

Again, not to be rude, but why are you commenting in a 6th gen Mustang forum if you've never owned one? You seem way out of your depth with some of your comments here.

Hello; The Coyote V8 engines in the F-150 do have such a system apparently from 2021 according to some sources. Not clear if the Coyote V8's in the Mustangs have the system from searches. If the Coyote V8 in Mustangs do not have such a system this would be a big plus from my point of view.
does the ford 5.0 have cylinder deactivation - Search (bing.com)

Do all 2023 5.0 have cylinder deactivation? | F150gen14 -- 2021+ Ford F-150, Tremor, Raptor Forum (14th Gen) | News, Owners, Community, Discussions

2021 Mustang GT Premium w/cylinder deactivation? | 2015+ S550 Mustang Forum (GT, EcoBoost, GT350, GT500, Bullitt, Mach 1) - Mustang6G.com

As far as my posting while not owning a Mustang, such is not a requirement to post on the forum as far as I know. If memory serves you took similar jabs at me in another thread. Report me if you think I am out of line or perhaps simply ignore my posts.

The OP asked for information about Mustangs. I do know cylinder deactivation is on some F-150 V8's and suspected it might be on other Ford V8's. I will be most pleased to find out the Ford system, called COD I think, is not on the Mustang V8's. If by chance it is present on Mustang V8's I thought the information might be worth knowing.

EDIT - For what it may be worth I am car shopping myself. If the OP of this thread wishes I will unwatch the thread.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Hello; The Coyote V8 engines in the F-150 do have such a system apparently from 2021 according to some sources. Not clear if the Coyote V8's in the Mustangs have the system from searches. If the Coyote V8 in Mustangs do not have such a system this would be a big plus from my point of view.
does the ford 5.0 have cylinder deactivation - Search (bing.com)

Do all 2023 5.0 have cylinder deactivation? | F150gen14 -- 2021+ Ford F-150, Tremor, Raptor Forum (14th Gen) | News, Owners, Community, Discussions

2021 Mustang GT Premium w/cylinder deactivation? | 2015+ S550 Mustang Forum (GT, EcoBoost, GT350, GT500, Bullitt, Mach 1) - Mustang6G.com

As far as my posting while not owning a Mustang, such is not a requirement to post on the forum as far as I know. If memory serves you took similar jabs at me in another thread. Report me if you think I am out of line or perhaps simply ignore my posts.

The OP asked for information about Mustangs. I do know cylinder deactivation is on some F-150 V8's and suspected it might be on other Ford V8's. I will be most pleased to find out the Ford system, called COD I think, is not on the Mustang V8's. If by chance it is present on Mustang V8's I thought the information might be worth knowing.

EDIT - For what it may be worth I am car shopping myself. If the OP of this thread wishes I will unwatch the thread.

The F150 5.0 is a varient of the Coyote that comes in the Mustang and is not the same engine.

Since this is a Mustang forum, and we are talking about Mustangs, I assumed it was a given you were talking about the Mustang 5.0 Coyote and not the F150.

So just to reiterate and clairy, no version of the MUSTANG Coyote engine has ever come with cylinder deactivation.

And yes, of course owning an S550 is not a requirement to post or follow threads here. But if you are going to contribute to the subject at hand (giving advice on what model to purchase), it helps if you know what you are talking about. Arguing over whether a Mustang has cylinder deactivation clearly shows that you don't and just derails the thread.

 

[mindo389]

Its good to see other seasoned owners going through their second parenthood, as myself. I bought my '15 second hand from a Ford dealership, online and unseen. Crazy, but... it had low mileage and I put the saleslady through endless emails and calls before I bought it.
Other than the air conditioning evaporator coil, battery, and that dang brake petal switch, *knock on wood, it's been my retirement toy and a fun daily driver.
I bought a spare this summer and took it to Florida for vacation. It may not be as powerful as the newer years, and a few less options, but it has enough to remind me of my older Mustangs I hot rodded in my younger days.
My grandson tends to grade my driving on how I do on curved roads, or fishtailing on wet ones...

 

[MAGS1]

There a tons of people having issues on the '22-'23 A10s. Do a search on the forum.

Biggest issue I had on mine was it was a little over a quart low on fluid from factory. Dealer filled it up, did the relearn (all under warranty) and it’s been smooth as butter for me ever since.

Not to say there aren’t others that are having issues with it, but we’re a pretty small subsection of owners out there. Issues will always be amplified here (just ask the GT350 guys with the Voodoo, the vast majority of them have little to no issues but the ones that do get amplified here)

 

[RowdyRam]

SNIP
Mustangs that come from the factory with 20" wheels, or wide 19" wheels like the Shelby and Mach 1 cars don't come with spare tires because the spares won't fit in the trunk. Instead you get a inflation kit that comes with sealer. It's really not the big deal people make it out to be.
/SNIP

One of the great things about Mustangs is that there are so many options available out there...so many it's hard to keep up with them all.

For instance, mine came with factory 20's and a spare tire - the spare was part of a package.

With that said, a spare can be added to any S550. American Muscle, Late Model Restoration, and even Ford offers them, among others.

https://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-spare-tire-kit-2015.html?utm_content=Exterior - Wheel Accessories|Ford&T5_Var4=387202&utm_source=google-pla&utm_medium=shopping&T5_Var2=shopping&utm_campaign=AMM+Mustang+Vehicle+Medium+LTVTop&intl=0&dialogtech=ppc&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwxY-3BhAuEiwAu7Y6s0Xa47WTMOr3Jq0cjpvU766Yu9lnceS5uws9Z2F5K8E4FE0iuQ1ZCBoCJR0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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