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[S550HPP]

Science / math are the opposite of emotional.

Few have ever survived bike shooter intact, and while many have survived random they have suffered terrible injuries or been very lucky.

I'll take ballistic glass and kevlar door panels any day over hopes of sudden super natural powers from a comic book " faster than bullets able to react evade and lay down accurate fire in 1000th of a second, while driving" haha....that's the movies.

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[Evolvd]

Science / math are the opposite of emotional.

Few have ever survived bike shooter intact, and while many have survived random they have suffered terrible injuries or been very lucky.

I'll take ballistic glass and kevlar door panels any day over hopes of sudden super natural powers from a comic book " faster than bullets able to react evade and lay down accurate fire in 1000th of a second, while driving" haha....that's the movies.

I don’t even know what you’re talking about…but apparently it doesn’t matter so I won’t bother asking for clarification.

 

[Hadelson]

The fallacy in your approach is assuming any of us has any control over what other people do and assuming we don’t have control in how we train to react. There’s no machismo being spread in this thread, that’s the reply of someone who’s using emotionally charged language instead of logical reasoning.

By your inference we should just throw our hands up in the air and do nothing at all. That’s a victim mentality. I choose to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. That’s how survivors are made.

Initial response of the un-informed educated by Hollywood fantasy. Well, geez, who's setting off fireworks? A few in a split second realize what happened and then pro-act.

Just refer to the news video on what happened recently. Virtually all of the crowd had no idea what was happening.

I do agree it's sad we need to be this way, but then again, the world can be and is a somewhat dangerous place.

Science / math are the opposite of emotional.

Few have ever survived bike shooter intact, and while many have survived random they have suffered terrible injuries or been very lucky.

I'll take ballistic glass and kevlar door panels any day over hopes of sudden super natural powers from a comic book " faster than bullets able to react evade and lay down accurate fire in 1000th of a second, while driving" haha....that's the movies.

Hollywood fantasy land for sure. Earlier in this thread, mentioned recognize the threat, don't allow yourself to get into the situation and if needed, hit hard and fast.

Going back out continuing to overseed my lawn. All grass seed deemed safe for handling

 

[shogun32]

The problem with those statistical analyses is they don’t take into account the social-economics of the areas which have the most gun violence

nor cultural norms. Granted in Japan the opportunity to commit a crime with a gun is VASTLY less than in USA by virtue of there being almost no guns to be had. But beyond that, the Japanese culture itself is a crime disincentive, and their prisons are no joke. Unlike here in USA where the justice system is a complete farce, and prisons are club-fed revolving doors. We do the victims and frankly the crime-prone social strata a HUGE disservice by not making the penalty for felony grievous bodily harm/murder level crime equal to "I would rather you just kill me now".

Our crime problem "with guns" is of course facilitated by the sheer numbers available, legally or otherwise. You can't put THAT genie back in the bottle. Not only would it be illegal, it is the definition of impractical.

As Evolved said, our crime populace is highly concentrated. And the economic solutions practiced for 70 years are designed to be ineffectual. The point was to keep them on the figurative plantation, and we have mostly succeeded. But unfortunately, they are mobile and so the consequences of those policies spills out and over.

Criminals are always evaluating the tradeoff between being successful and getting blasted by an armed intended victim or passersby. When "the gov't" is more interested in protecting the criminal, you get more crime. A proper society would commend and encourage the terminal cessation of criminal behavior on the spot.

Gun ownership is not about response to crime. That is a complete side-show. Guns in the hands of the citizenry is a silent check on gov't power.

 

[Hoofer]

Mass murder is not just an American problem.

Nonsense - it is a uniquely huge problem in America vs. the rest of the world:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world

LOL. Quotes npr.

 

[Buldawg76]

My view is if you take a life on purpose and are convicted of it beyond any doubt you give up the right to your life and a swift public execution should be the immediate consequence period. An eye for an eye and nothing less. Punishment equals the crime. Law abiding people do not intentionally kill other people only violent criminals do and therefore forfeit the right to their life.

Think about that and that if the violent criminals new they would be executed after conviction I am sure they would be far less willing to break the laws.

Yes, I am an old skool barbarian and make no excuse for it.

BD

 

[Hadelson]

My view is if you take a life on purpose and are convicted of it beyond any doubt you give up the right to your life and a swift public execution should be the immediate consequence period. An eye for an eye and nothing less. Punishment equals the crime. Law abiding people do not intentionally kill other people only violent criminals do and therefore forfeit the right to their life.

Think about that and that if the violent criminals new they would be executed after conviction I am sure they would be far less willing to break the laws.

Yes, I am an old skool barbarian and make no excuse for it.

BD

In Saudi, its slang name is chop-Chop Square. Almost Disney like in design. Pedestals for holding people for the various means of justice with water jets coming out of the ground to wash away the blood. Very few westerners have seen this......they do exist

 

[Buldawg76]

In Saudi, its slang name is chop-Chop Square. Almost Disney like in design. Pedestals for holding people for the various means of justice with water jets coming out of the ground to wash away the blood. Very few westerners have seen this......they do exist

I think it should be part of a mandatory world history course for all high school and college curriculums and it would not bother me in the least to see it implemented in America as well. I bet it would be one hell of a deterrent to violent crime if criminals new the consequence for their actions, it should be televised on the evening news daily.

Or better yet on faceplant or instacrap.

Just like the old time tradition of public hangings where everyone would come from all over to gather in town to watch justice be served.

BD

 

[shogun32]

Just like the old time tradition of public hangings where everyone would come from all over to gather in town to watch justice be served.

can you imagine we let our children aged 10 and below watch a man die on a noose! Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any trigger warnings posted, or the judge on the stand warning the crowd the following scene may be uncomfortable and that counselors will be made available afterward to address your concerns.

 

[Buldawg76]

can you imagine we let our children aged 10 and below watch a man die on a noose! Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any trigger warnings, or the judge on the stand warning the crowd the following scene may be uncomfortable.

Yes, I can imagine it and think it needs to happen to show what the hard cold facts of the real world are actually about and what criminals are capable of firsthand. It would instill a true respect for the need for a law abiding civil society.

Spare the rod spoil the child just in a different manner. Youth today have no respect for each other much less the law.

BD

 

[shogun32]

Youth today have no respect for each other much less the law.

just the other day a group of 9 u'tes attacked a 60yr old in NY who was out for a stroll. Draw lots, hang one. The rest will never do that again.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/23/us-ne...-nightly-walk-in-sunnyside-suspects-arrested/

 

[Buldawg76]

just the other day a group of 9 yutes attacked a 60yr old in NY who was out for a stroll. Draw lots, hang one. The rest will never do that again.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/23/us-ne...-nightly-walk-in-sunnyside-suspects-arrested/

Nope hang them all and be done since those that are still breathing will commit crime again, no mercy period.

As I stated old skool barbarian that truly believes in an eye for an eye period.

BD

 

[K4fxd]

You let one live so he can tell his criminal friends.

 

[Buldawg76]

You let one live so he can tell his criminal friends.

Thats what nightly news and social misinformation is for IMO.

BD

 

[gvn49]

Lots of non-American residents shaking our heads while reading this thread. What a sad place you have there.

And what kind of protection do you have in your country against the knife/machete wielding terrorist or mentally unstable person. Don’t forget there have been over ten million illegals released into our country, not all are evil, including terrorist, violent gang members criminals out of prisons, remember the Merial Boat lift where Castro opened his prisons and sent them to the USA with carters welcom,. Like insurance or spare tire, or tyre, better to have it and not use it then wish you had it and didn’t. Not everyone will need to use it but if you do it’s a life changing event. I also carry pepper spray which I don’t think your allowed in some European countries, stun gun, and I use a cane to keep me from falling which also makes for a good weapon if needed. Like stated better to be prepared and not need it then need it and not have it.

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