Pending purchase--would appreciate input

[64Chevy]

I'm hot for a 2018 GT350. I don't like the subtle updates on the 19's (other than the better stereo availability, and potentially any safety features they added) and I am liking that 18's are available (in some cases) closer to invoice than sticker. I'm a Convenience Package guy, and have been searching nationwide. I was about to pull the trigger on a car in the Midwest (had checked with my insurance agent, had shipping quotes) until I asked about the current milage--it was 9 miles on CarGurus and >150 actual.

I've read the varying opinions on whether appropriate break-in can address potential oil consumption issues, and though the info is mixed I'd still like to put those miles on myself. Given that, what does this group think in terms a maximum number of miles (of unknown quality--RPMs, etc.) that would be acceptable on a brand new car? I'm thinking under 20 is okay.

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[Tomster]

20 something. 150 something is a lot of unknown what ifs.....

You'd probably be ok either way, but I'd rather buy a car that is well documented on how it was maintained or I would buy it new (with an appropriate amount of new miles).

 

[Shift]

I wouldn't. That's a lot of miles for a brand new car, most likely very hard miles. It'd be no problem if it was used, but it's still in the break-in period, and who knows if they ever took the time to let it warm up before they beat on the car. If you were dead set on it, I'd ask for more $ off.

 

[64Chevy]

I wouldn't. That's a lot of miles for a brand new car, most likely very hard miles. It'd be no problem if it was used, but it's still in the break-in period, and who knows if they ever took the time to let it warm up before they beat on the car. If you were dead set on it, I'd ask for more $ off.

They might come down some, but it is already relatively aggressively priced. And I don't want to go for a new car that is 1K cheaper but with 130+ more miles--if I end up with an oil burner engine, I will blame myself.

 

[Shift]

$1000 is different for everybody. Peace of mind is extremely important to me, and as you said, if something goes wrong, you'll wonder if it's because of how it was treated before you took delivery or not. I'd pay the extra $1000 because I am very particular in how I treat my car.

 

[64Chevy]

$1000 is different for everybody. Peace of mind is extremely important to me, and as you said, if something goes wrong, you'll wonder if it's because of how it was treated before you took delivery or not. I'd pay the extra $1000 because I am very particular in how I treat my car.

Exactly. I understand that to some 1K would make the difference of being able to purchase, or being able to do essential (to them) mods, but I have a little more wiggle room.

 

[Tomster]

Chances are that it'll burn oil and a lot of it. It's a well documented issue with the 5.2 FPC.

That's a really crappy thing to tell a guy who is all excited for a new car and a textbook troll comment if I ever saw one.

In reality, chances are it won't. None of my cars burn a lot of oil. Most peoples here don't either.

Why would you say this to someone and why are you still hanging around here? Axe to grind I suspect?

I could get into how I really feel about you, your biased attitude, and why you are still here with the same negative slant as it has been for a long long time. In fact a lot of people look the other way when you come around and spread your doom and gloom. However not only are you spreading disinformation, but you are ruining someone elses excitement and optimism.

One of these days you are going to go too far and the ban hammer will be back, hopefully for good.

 

[JJ]

I'm hot for a 2018 GT350. I don't like the subtle updates on the 19's (other than the better stereo availability, and potentially any safety features they added) and I am liking that 18's are available (in some cases) closer to invoice than sticker. I'm a Convenience Package guy, and have been searching nationwide. I was about to pull the trigger on a car in the Midwest (had checked with my insurance agent, had shipping quotes) until I asked about the current milage--it was 9 miles on CarGurus and >150 actual.

I've read the varying opinions on whether appropriate break-in can address potential oil consumption issues, and though the info is mixed I'd still like to put those miles on myself. Given that, what does this group think in terms a maximum number of miles (of unknown quality--RPMs, etc.) that would be acceptable on a brand new car? I'm thinking under 20 is okay.

Car i got had 120 miles but they didnt allow test drives , they told me they drove it from and to their warehouse they had it for almost an year , it doesnt burn oil only like 3000 miles with half a quart

 

[rick81721]

Don't worry about oil consumption (and I just had my motor replaced for excessive oil usage). This car is amazing. If the motor is a burner, you will find out well before the warranty runs out - most people know within the first 6-7K miles. And then you get a new long block. Good luck!

 

[Demonic]

I think there are two perspectives to consider. Firstly, it is, as you mentioned, nice to know that the only miles put on the car were your own so you know the car was dogged on in it's early miles. On the other hand, oil consumption hasn't been linked to break-in outside of people's speculations and conclusions they drew from anecdotal experiences. So yes, it'd be great to know the miles on the new engine were your own, but we also don't know if it makes 'that' much of a difference.

 

[LFG_Cory]

I recently bought a 2018 with 2800 miles on it and had the same concerns as you do. Should something go wrong I'll wonder if it's from the first 2800 miles. In my case I found out the back story on the previous owner and got the Oasis report from the dealership. For me it was the right color and close to the right price so I bought it.

If the price is right and you're satisfied with what the dealership is saying about how the mileage was put on the car I say go for it. There is a full factory warranty. If not, keep searching, there will be plenty to choose from here shortly with the GT500 coming out.

 

[Hack]

I would buy it if the price is right and you like everything else about the car. These GT350s are well built. I think they work best when they are driven hard - they are certainly built to handle a ton of hard driving. I've been to the track a handful of times and the car just soaks it up and cruises home with no sweat.

 

[Docscurlock]

Most likely the owner of the dealership drove it around a little and they probably took it a few places for marketing. It's got a full warranty for 3/36k, I wouldn't worry about it. I bought mine barely used from a guy who wanted an R model and couldn't be happier. A 2016 Track pack, BTW. If you like it and the deal fits, buy it.

 

[64Chevy]

Without wading into this debate, it does seem clear that some of these motors burn oil, there may be some resistance at the dealer level to having it addressed, and the "issue rate" for this seems higher than for a lot of other vehicles (although other vehicles certain have there own issues--Jeeps with the 3.6 liter V6 and casting sand in the cooling system, Porsche IMS bearings, etc.). I'm assuming a basic extended warranty would continue to cover the motor (to the extent that Ford does or does not cover this).

But I do have a question. Does the catalytic convertor clean up the excess oil that gets burned? And whether or not it does would the combusted oil have an effect on the catalyst's service life? It seems like Ford is either going to replacing a lot of cats under the much longer standard emissions system warranty, or will eventually get crosswise with the EPA (or some super strict state like California, given that these are 50 state cars) unless the cats can handle this no problem.

Given the protection of a warranty, the possibility to extend it, and the fact that this is a car I won't likely own for a very long time, I'm okay with the oil burner risk. I do appreciate everyone's comments about the higher milage new car--but with searching I have found a few additional cars in equally acceptable colors with under 20 miles, with similar shipping costs--so I am going to let the higher milage new car go (even though the impact of those miles is questionable and likely not that concerning).

 

[Demonic]

I'm sorry that the reality of this model causes you to respond to me in such a way. The OP is benefitting in hearing all of the opinions and facts about the 5.2 FPC. The facts are that the GT350 is having engines replaced and is burning oil unlike any other model currently available. The OP should know this. It would be a disservice to him to not inform him of this. He should also know that Ford says that such egregious oil consumption is normal, and that they have not yet admitted that there is a reliability problem with the 5.2 FPC nor an ensuing solution. Apparently they're waiting it out until the warranty runs out with all of these cars. These are the realities presented with respect to the GT350, they are not optimistic. There is no reason to be optimistic about this car unless reliability isn't a concern.

So, you're saying that the time you spend going through the forum of a car you no longer own to tell people it's junk is purely out of benevolence to provide a public service? Because it looks far more like an emotionally driven individual looking to garner solidarity in hopes of creating a mob mentality. Do you not see the similarity between what you're doing and going into a bar every night to trash-talk your ex to everyone and claim that you're doing it purely as a public service to other guys?

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