OPG FAILED last night, street car.

[Roh92cp]

The heads are suspect at least the passenger side head had some slight scouring on the bearing surface which is the head itself. So I wouldn't really be comfortable using these heads without some reconditioning work to them which drives up the rebuild cost.

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[Roh92cp]

Cleveland performance has a couple low mile coyote take outs

I just checked their site and didn't see any 2015-17 coyote motors their, only Chev and Mopar stuff. Do you have a link of what you saw?

 

[Reds197]

Stock shortblock is 2500 exchange from ford. If you are never going above 700 it will last as long as you want in my opinion. Put the OPG and timing gear and move on. You have already done a timing set up so swapping heads is not that hard. That's what I would do. 15 shortblock is pretty strong!

 

[Super Werty]

On my phone it sounds good to me. I would drop the oil. Idle it for a few minutes and drop the oil again

 

[Sheenapple]

I think something is missing here. You upgraded tg, are you 250% sure the timing was done correctly? Doesn't sound like it, did you do a crank re-learn? Should have done opgs ONLY for testing then tg. Now shits fucked and you're out $6700.

 

[boosted4life]

I think something is missing here. You upgraded tg, are you 250% sure the timing was done correctly? Doesn't sound like it, did you do a crank re-learn? Should have done opgs ONLY for testing then tg. Now shits fucked and you're out $6700.

You have to remove the timing chains to get to the opg regardless. Why would he tear it back down to do the tg after?

 

[dev1360]

I think something is missing here. You upgraded tg, are you 250% sure the timing was done correctly? Doesn't sound like it, did you do a crank re-learn? Should have done opgs ONLY for testing then tg. Now shits fucked and you're out $6700.

Timing gear has to come off to change the OPG. It'd have to be timed either way.

Also, if not in time, it'd be spewing codes or smashing itself apart.

 

[Roh92cp]

I think something is missing here. You upgraded tg, are you 250% sure the timing was done correctly? Doesn't sound like it, did you do a crank re-learn? Should have done opgs ONLY for testing then tg. Now shits fucked and you're out $6700.

"Shits fucked" sounds about right man. Timing chain gear comes off when you do the OPG, so you have to retime the cams again. I did install the stock timing gear and an crank relearn is not needed for this. Yes I'm sure it was done correctly, followed the very simple Ford procedure. You tell me if this is correct.

LH (drivers side) chain went on according to the instruction. How does this look anyone remember if this looks right. The reason I ask is the instructions don't say what the timing mark looks like on the LH side but I imagine it's the L with the small mark on the cam like in the picture. Don't mind my white marks those were just becuase I was peroniod and wanted to mark the chain before taking it off and I had not seen the dark colors links at that time.

Bottom chain marks.

RH setup after one full 360 degree turn clockwise from the 5 o'clock position, then turn again so keyway is at 12 o'clock.

Top dark link on the R1 timing Mark.

Bottom dark link on the gear timing Mark.

 

[esacteksab]

It wouldn't run as well as it did(tick aside) and it'd puke a ton of codes (28 for me when I f'd up timing it).

 

[Roh92cp]

You have to remove the timing chains to get to the opg regardless. Why would he tear it back down to do the tg after?

Timing gear has to come off to change the OPG. It'd have to be timed either way.

Also, if not in time, it'd be spewing codes or smashing itself apart.

It wouldn't run as well as it did(tick aside) and it'd puke a ton of codes (28 for me when I f'd up timing it).

Yup no codes at all. I was wishing at first it was a timing mistake but I'm 100% sure I got that right. It must be a Bearing heating up after running for 15-20 seconds and starts to make noise.

 

[mustang_guy]

Had a feeling you were going to need an engine. Its a crappy place to be. I know its hard to be postive right now but it could always be worse. You could have an engine block thats completly trashed with a window in it and be out more money. Try to remember its all about perspective. Again, best of luck!

 

[Sheenapple]

Wasn't aware of the tg process or how indepth the opgs were to do. I was more just offering potential insight of what was missing from the thread. OP to answer your question, I personally have no idea if you did it correctly, I have no experience with it. In troubleshooting it's best to share everything that was done as others may have insight if something is missing or incorrect. My bad

 

[daniel_94kg]

If you end up needing a new motor, I would look into having forged rods and pistons put into the stock block if it's able to be used. I went this route and it ended up costing me less than the cost of a stock crate engine, and it's much stronger now. Just a suggestion to consider. Good luck man.

 

[Roh92cp]

Had a feeling you were going to need an engine. Its a crappy place to be. I know its hard to be postive right now but it could always be worse. You could have an engine block thats completly trashed with a window in it and be out more money. Try to remember its all about perspective. Again, best of luck!

Yeah I was really only half believing it would work, but at least at this point I know how easy it is to do the OPG and timing gears and cam timing after. I'm still feeling a bit sacked, however now I know what I have to do, rebuild it swap a crate motor in.

Wasn't aware of the tg process or how indepth the opgs were to do. I was more just offering potential insight of what was missing from the thread. OP to answer your question, I personally have no idea if you did it correctly, I have no experience with it. In troubleshooting it's best to share everything that was done as others may have insight if something is missing or incorrect. My bad

Learning process for me as well, and some learn lessons the hard way:headbonk:

If you end up needing a new motor, I would look into having forged rods and pistons put into the stock block if it's able to be used. I went this route and it ended up costing me less than the cost of a stock crate engine, and it's much stronger now. Just a suggestion to consider. Good luck man.

I would like to talk with you more about your rebuild, I'll Pm you thanks.

 

[Barney 5.0]

How many miles did the car have when it let go

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