Ongoing maintenance costs

[mike3105]

That said you can get 10-40K milage engines for about £7K shipped to UK plus install £2K.

You can get a brand new short block from Ford installed and done for that!

Saving pennies on oil / fluid / filter changes or tires makes no sense unless it's a disposable junker car or can't afford it in the first place, unless it's a lease car.

What cars need are use, doing 7-10k a year and having the right oil and a yearly change is perfect. All you need is a Blackstone analysis whilst doing that and you'll see that it's what the car wants. Oil moving regularly, some decent longer runs, and not constantly having fresh oil. It's like that guy that tried wearing new socks everyday, a great idea, but didn't work in reality.

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[S550HPP]

You can get a brand new short block from Ford installed and done for that!



What cars need are use, doing 7-10k a year and having the right oil and a yearly change is perfect. All you need is a Blackstone analysis whilst doing that and you'll see that it's what the car wants. Oil moving regularly, some decent longer runs, and not constantly having fresh oil. It's like that guy that tried wearing new socks everyday, a great idea, but didn't work in reality.

In the end these are agrarian engines with high end software managing electromechanicals ....I'm sure 10K oil changes with synthetic doing long trips is fine. For short trips no good.

I like wrenching so change oil every 3000 but same quality synthetic e.g Motul grade here is only £5.50 -7 quart or so and the turbo engine is notorious for dumping fuel into the engine. With a filter that's only £70 or so.

I already has my '69 dual port Karman Ghia blow from float bowl leaking into engine....

I do wear new socks and underwear daily and works well, especially if end up in emergency ward as my mother used to say haha.

 

[wenklaw]

OEM steering wheel is real leather even on the S650

No chance of £40k I'm afraid. Mustang has nearly £3k of VED year one and they have to be shipped over here and there is a 10% tariff. RHD will add some costs as smaller numbers made plus features unique to the EU. There is nothing remotely close in spec for £40k from any car maker.

£60k for the GT is still the cheapest V8 coupe you can buy in the UK by some margin (it is actually the ONLY naturally aspirated V8 available new in the UK now)

£48k new to £60k new in 6 years is pretty good really, especially when you consider inflation over those 6 years and changes in VED. Ford are not looking to sell loads as it hurts the overall CO2 averages for them. It may be that the cars coming to the UK now will be the last, maybe some 2025 cars but very few after that.

It will be the last ICE Mustang anyway in Europe.

I paid a smidge under £40k for my GT in December 2019 so the hike to £60k is a pretty steep one. I’ve now seen discounts of £8k on the new GT being offered, I can smell 0% finance coming which will then place the cost of the new mustang where it should be for those who buy via PCP etc. No way on this planet the s650 is anywhere near the level of the G87 BMW M2 in terms of ability, performance or build quality and thats a similar price both cash or PCP.

the dark horse is shockingly expensive at £70k.

I think we will start to see hefty discounts plus 0% as ford will need to start shifting them. 71 brand new for sale on Auto trader, that’s a lot IMO

don’t get me wrong, great cars that ouze personality but they need to be priced right and at the moment they just aren’t IMO

 

[Gregs24]

I paid a smidge under £40k for my GT in December 2019 so the hike to £60k is a pretty steep one. I’ve now seen discounts of £8k on the new GT being offered, I can smell 0% finance coming which will then place the cost of the new mustang where it should be for those who buy via PCP etc. No way on this planet the s650 is anywhere near the level of the G87 BMW M2 in terms of ability, performance or build quality and thats a similar price both cash or PCP.

the dark horse is shockingly expensive at £70k.

I think we will start to see hefty discounts plus 0% as ford will need to start shifting them. 71 brand new for sale on Auto trader, that’s a lot IMO

don’t get me wrong, great cars that ouze personality but they need to be priced right and at the moment they just aren’t IMO

If you paid £40k in 2019 then an equivalent now would be £55k with better spec. Mine was £48k with options included which were quite a bit then and match my spec now.

Extra £10k for the DH - well there are quite a few changes under the skin to do with track use. I suspect most people don't need those if only used on the road.

There are loads now coming in including some MY25 cars later in the Spring. Some discounts now showing up of around £3k for some of the stock cars. Not an easy time to sell a Mustang in February, or anything for that matter.

M2 and M4 were never an option for me - I get waved out at junctions not given the finger for a reason!

 

[SCP440]

What ever the price you have to see what else you could get for a similar pay out. A friend was looking at an M3 Estate, dealer list price was something like £85k, he ticked a few option boxes and to actually put it on the road was going to be over £120k, how crazy is that ? He walked away and the dealer rung him back the following day offering him a preregistered one with less than 100 miles on it and in the same spec for £85k. That is some crazy depreciation.
Personally I think part of the failure of the 650 is it looks more like a facelift than a MK7 and not every one wants a car full of screens.
With the way a lot of governments are trying to get people into electric I think we are seeing the last of the great ICE cars sadly.

 

[S550HPP]

All the govts pushing EV have been fired in last 3 years and more to come. Seems like the EVmania is over while in CN its 80%+ EV......

 

[Gregs24]

All the govts pushing EV have been fired in last 3 years and more to come. Seems like the EVmania is over while in CN its 80%+ EV......

Again off topic, uninformed opinions on EVs now with added politics.

Leave your US politics out of a UK thread on Mustang maintenance

 

[wenklaw]

£4500 off a new GT and £5700 off a DH straight away so maybe a little more wiggle room. The £8k i get included a further employee discount (I’m not the employee) which is new to the s650 as hadnt seen it offered before.

what’s making them IMO silly money on PCP is the 10% apr and add the price increase it’s a lot lot more than the £420ish no deposit I was paying, it’s well over double plus a £9k deposit, no matter what man math or inflation figures I apply to that it’s not going to work out well!!!

Saying all that maybe £40k was in fact the bargain of my car buys so I should be grateful plus I sold it for basically a few pints loss. I should be very very grateful!!!

 

[Gregs24]

£4500 off a new GT and £5700 off a DH straight away so maybe a little more wiggle room. The £8k i get included a further employee discount (I’m not the employee) which is new to the s650 as hadnt seen it offered before.

what’s making them IMO silly money on PCP is the 10% apr and add the price increase it’s a lot lot more than the £420ish no deposit I was paying, it’s well over double plus a £9k deposit, no matter what man math or inflation figures I apply to that it’s not going to work out well!!!

Saying all that maybe £40k was in fact the bargain of my car buys so I should be grateful plus I sold it for basically a few pints loss. I should be very very grateful!!!

That looks about right. I paid list, but got £4.5k over trade for my old car plus a full tank of fuel and extended warranty. Price to change is all that really matters.

 

[SCP440]

. Price to change is all that really matters.

Exactly, I bought a new van a few years ago and the salesman was not aloud to discount due to shortages at the time but instead gave me nearly double what I thought my old one was worth.
Some advice a car salesman gave me years ago, when you are buying make sure you don't specify any thing out of the usual as this devalues them when you come to sell and if you negotiate a big discount off a new one the chances are most other people will as well so in truth that is the real price not the price in the brochure.

 

[S550HPP]

Again off topic, uninformed opinions on EVs now with added politics.

Leave your US politics out of a UK thread on Mustang maintenance

No politics, which are opinions and agendas.

I just state the facts, as an informed dual EU and American national who travels 80,000 miles a year on business to all the first world countries who needs to be informed of country risks while making material capital decisions on potential and actual opportunities.

 

[Gregs24]

No politics, which are opinions and agendas.

I just state the facts, as an informed dual EU and American national who travels 80,000 miles a year on business to all the first world countries who needs to be informed of country risks while making material capital decisions on potential and actual opportunities.

ALL of which has NOTHING to do with maintenance costs for a Mustang!

 

[GR11M]

My old S550 had just over 30k miles on it and was used as a daily for the last 3 years. No warranty work in 6 years just routine servicing and mechanically completely stock. I lost £15.5k over 6 years which I was completely happy with. New one is a bargain at £60k when you compare to the alternatives (of which there are few) and only £12k more than my S550 was. Taking inflation over 6 years and changes to VED that stacks up fine.

Interior is a big improvement (dash look and quality) seats are better quality leather / Pleather mix, it's quieter at motorway speeds and feels more solid. A10 is significantly better than in the S550.

I really can't see the £24k worth of improvements over the S550. New cars are ridiculously expensive and hamstrung by emissions. If I'm buying a new, fun, performance car it's going to be one from closer to 2010. There's no intensive to buy new performance cars any more.

 

[Gregs24]

I really can't see the £24k worth of improvements over the S550. New cars are ridiculously expensive and hamstrung by emissions. If I'm buying a new, fun, performance car it's going to be one from closer to 2010. There's no intensive to buy new performance cars any more.

Well it is only £12k difference from 2019 to 2025 in terms of list price. VED has increased a lot since then plus a 5% tariff now. Inflation does the rest easily.

Cars are no more expensive than anything else, that is what happens with strong inflation.

Personally my S650 is a good step up from my S550 (performance is the same even with better emissions control) and as I said there is nothing comparable at the price. Plenty of performance cars selling these days of all types so some people are happy to buy them. If you don't that is fine.

Mine is a daily so maybe has different priorities.

 

[GR11M]

Well it is only £12k difference from 2019 to 2025 in terms of list price. VED has increased a lot since then plus a 5% tariff now. Inflation does the rest easily.

Cars are no more expensive than anything else, that is what happens with strong inflation.

Personally my S650 is a good step up from my S550 (performance is the same even with better emissions control) and as I said there is nothing comparable at the price. Plenty of performance cars selling these days of all types so some people are happy to buy them. If you don't that is fine.

Mine is a daily so maybe has different priorities.

I was going to buy a MAC 1 and laughed at £50k, so I won't be spending £60k on a GT. For the price of a new GT you could have bought a new GT500 in the US. It will be interesting to see the Mustangs UK sales figures considering all car sales in the UK are down and Ford apparently sold 34k (24%) less cars in 2024 than it did in 2023.

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