OEM exhaust shorty "headers" material

[Robottrainer]

My guess is that it saves them the cost of the flange and an assembly step while not significantly making it harder to service later. Most of the replaced ones will be under warranty anyway so they’d just be costing themselves more during every warranty repair. Someone probably did the math and ultimately determined it was lower overall cost by eliminating the flange.

I've always said it not the engineers it's the accountants. I'm sure some one won a big bonus by suggesting taking out , what must be a 5 dollar part, over 10s of thousands of parts

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[GregO]

The Parts Cheapening Dept. typically wins the battle.

It would be interesting if someone offered a service where V-Band clamp connections are fit and welded to the OEM header.

 

[ZeroTX]

I've always said it not the engineers it's the accountants. I'm sure some one won a big bonus by suggesting taking out , what must be a 5 dollar part, over 10s of thousands of parts

I mean... so there's no flange after the cat, either? Must be the bean counters, I don't get it. If they were both flanged, then shorty headers might be a nice budget swap, but not like it is.

 

[engineermike]

There’s a slip fit after the cat, then a dog leg section, then a band clamp before the resonator.

In order to pull the header/cat, you release the band clamp and then rotate the dog leg piece, which then slides off the cat and is now out of the way. Then the header/cat comes out.

 

[Robottrainer]

The Parts Cheapening Dept. typically wins the battle.

It would be interesting if someone offered a service where V-Band clamp connections are fit and welded to the OEM header.

They don't give you much material to work with once you lop the cat off. the S197s have flanges on both sides but clocked 90 degrees from any of the pre fab set ups. Either way, you are cutting and welding something

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