engineermike
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Ford patented a front Longitudinal engine powering the rear wheels and individual electric motors on each front wheel. To me, this is the best of all worlds.
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I'll give you 'best of both worlds' as long as the road goes straight.Ford patented a front Longitudinal engine powering the rear wheels and individual electric motors on each front wheel. To me, this is the best of all worlds.
Mazda and Ford are no longer dating. Mazda has been spotted wearing Toyota’s letter jacket.Just because Ford can't find their own ass doesn't mean the rest of the world is so bad at engineering... Ford just needs to outsource the 'sports' car engineering to Mazda.
Not sure how that's going to help the situation where the two axles are being driven by separate powertrains.Torque vectoring differentials do wonders.
I don't know about anybody else, but I wouldn't want my cars to have that much electronic trickery going on in the background. Not happy about the idea of sharing that level of control . . . or arguing with some module over who's the big boss when decisions about what to do end up being different.I think what you guys aren’t understanding is that the front electric motors will work COMPLETELY independently from the gas engine. During cornering, the electric motors can essentially be placed in neutral to where you wouldn’t even know they’re there aside from the added weight, or more ideally, they can monitor the slip angle and power each front wheel independently to increase turn-in without producing torque steer or understeer. This independent wheel control is what makes electric cars so damn fast
Agreed, but we also have to understand there’s a level of compromise here. If the Mustang gives us a hybrid option like that, I’d be willing to bet there would be a way to manually activate and deactivate the electric motors. Such would certainly not be the case for an all-electric MustangI don't know about anybody else, but I wouldn't want my cars to have that much electronic trickery going on in the background. Not happy about the idea of sharing that level of control . . . or arguing with some module over who's the big boss when decisions about what to do end up being different.
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yeah, it'll be the Auto-start/stop button sitting in the middle of the entertainment center.If the Mustang gives us a hybrid option like that, I’d be willing to bet there would be a way to manually activate and deactivate the electric motors.
I suppose.I'd guess. More modes are better, right?
Precisely the kinds of interference I especially don't want happening anywhere near a corner.And 'normal' stability control will torque vector (slow inner, speed up outer wheel) which might be disabled in 'ASC' mode but probably not. Re-gen braking will be enabled 100% of the time even if the electric motors are in 'disabled' as far as drive is concerned.
My reaction when my car does something that I didn't specifically command it to do is much the same, anywhere from that to "WTF just broke?".On that note I got a big surprise the other day coming down a modest hill in my F150 with the A10 (give me a manual damn it!!) in 'Tow/Trailer' mode and it downshifted to put the RPMs at 3000 on zero throttle. For a second I thought the A10 was living up to it's "WTF is it doing now?" erratic behavior.
The throttle plate and fuel timing and pulse width is fully computer controlled and it won't be possible to stall the air nor flood the injectors just because you stomped on the pedal. 100% pedal just means ramp as fast as algorithms/tables allow and modified by engine RPM, gear selection, and knock sensors.That sent me down a new rabbit hole of disabling that one....
Not the case this time. The torque source clearly switched from “driver demand“ to “tipin limit“. Spark timing went to -1 and the ETC only opened to 20 deg. It ramped up over the course of 500 ms. It decided I don’t get all the torque right away but rather, I had to wait for it.The throttle plate and fuel timing and pulse width is fully computer controlled and it won't be possible to stall the air nor flood the injectors just because you stomped on the pedal. 100% pedal just means ramp as fast as algorithms/tables allow and modified by engine RPM, gear selection, and knock sensors.
I get all that.So the other day, I stabbed the gas when logging and it didn’t respond like I thought it would. For torque source, the log said “tipin limit”. The point being these cars often already don’t do exactly what the driver asks for. That sent me down a new rabbit hole of disabling that one....