Mustang interior update.....

[Double]

How is this "something random"? I gave you a full list of reasons as to why the car is the way it is and what you can do to get a better interior (spend more money) and that the interior is actually quite nice for the price (comparison to Focus)

No, I'd say it's more like you haven't read anything in this thread. You just keep saying the same thing over and over. People are giving you legitimate reasons as to why the stitching is the way it is and you just keep saying "no, but I want it this way!!!"

Dude, go buy a luxury car if something that simple is such a big deal to you.

People telling me to buy an expensive exclusive luxury car doesn't solve this argument.

If you have two pieces of faux stitching why does upgrading to Premium trim only get rid of the faux stitching on the dashboard ? how can it be called premium trim if the faux stitching remains on those sides ? thats hardly premium(thats Premium spec + Premtium trim even...). I would pay double the price of Premium trim to have that fixed. Even if it were a "Faux stitching delete"

Yes its all a good deal and yes ill buy a Mustang in a heartbeat just trying to have an honest discussion about this... and telling me to buy a different more expensive car that I do not want doesn't solve my issue. My V40 already fills that gap.

PS: The fact I find this a big issue with the Mustang should tell you what I think about the Mustang in general. I love it I just despise faux stitching and Premium trim makes the Dash look awesome its just a massive shame of the two side pieces. And the way Premium trim only upgrades parts of that faux stitching makes me wonder why it just doesnt make sense even from a price stand point and could easily be made into an option.

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[DB83]

I do agree that some crap really isn't necessary. I'm not interested in a HUD, or fancy lighting, or any of that, and i do agree that this kind of car definitely needs a manual e-brake. Electric ones are just no fun at all!
However, i don't think that the whole leather dash longevity is necessarilly true. It all depends on how you look after it. I've seen plastic dashes that haven't been looked after that after peeling away at the edges after only 10 years, whereas i've seen 7 year old leather dashboards looking brand new (yes i know its not 10 years but still).

 

[chopsui]

It's a simple question. How much do you guys think it would cost to include real stitching on the center stack?

Hint: It aint $20k.

I swear, some of the attitudes here are the reason why American cars were crap for so long. Stop making excuses. Demand better. Just because someone criticizes one or two aspects of a car doesn't mean they hate the whole car.

 

[RemoteSenses]

People telling me to buy an expensive exclusive luxury car doesn't solve this argument.

If you have two pieces of faux stitching why does upgrading to Premium trim only get rid of the faux stitching on the dashboard ? how can it be called premium trim if the faux stitching remains on those sides ? thats hardly premium(thats Premium spec + Premtium trim even...). I would pay double the price of Premium trim to have that fixed. Even if it were a "Faux stitching delete"

Yes its all a good deal and yes ill buy a Mustang in a heartbeat just trying to have an honest discussion about this... and telling me to buy a different more expensive car that I do not want doesn't solve my issue. My V40 already fills that gap.

PS: The fact I find this a big issue with the Mustang should tell you what I think about the Mustang in general. I love it I just despise faux stitching and Premium trim makes the Dash look awesome its just a massive shame of the two side pieces. And the way Premium trim only upgrades parts of that faux stitching makes me wonder why it just doesnt make sense even from a price stand point and could easily be made into an option.

I get what you're saying. I just don't understand what you want done/what you expected to discuss here. The stitching is the way it is.

I get it. You don't like the faux stitching and that only part of it is "fixed" when you upgrade. What exactly do you want people to discuss here?

I don't think anyone is disagreeing that the upgrade should get rid of more of the faux stitching. This thread has turned into a big discussion about the overall interior of the car and you seem surprised by that.

 

[DB83]

Well, nothing is going to be done right now, but hopefully ford will take some of it in, and maybe offer the lower console finished with real stitching for the 2016 interior. Or maybe for the 2017 interior.

 

[Blk2015GT]

It's a simple question. How much do you guys think it would cost to include real stitching on the center stack?

Hint: It aint $20k.

I swear, some of the attitudes here are the reason why American cars were crap for so long. Stop making excuses. Demand better. Just because someone criticizes one or two aspects of a car doesn't mean they hate the whole car.

No one is saying it costs $20k to do. That's just sheer ignorance stated more than once now that is far from the point.

Higher price cars have higher expectations. They have more profit as well where the manufacturer can provide more detail. Exactly the same reason every Lamborghini that goes out goes into a light tunnel and is hand inspected for paint defects and manually corrected as well as every panel gapped by hand. The cost of the car can justify the detail. You wont see that on a car under $100k built on an assembly line, period.

As people are trying to say, even BMW and Audis that re higher priced are still hard plastic and not much nicer interiors than the Mustang offers. you need to go up n car price point quite a bit to get a real luxury interior.

A $30k car simply cannot afford every luxury. Supply/demand and cost points to meet. Most aren't willing to pay $50k for a Mustang for more refined detail; it's a muscle car not a luxury/import.

 

[Double]

I get what you're saying. I just don't understand what you want done/what you expected to discuss here. The stitching is the way it is.

I get it. You don't like the faux stitching and that only part of it is "fixed" when you upgrade. What exactly do you want people to discuss here?

I don't think anyone is disagreeing that the upgrade should get rid of more of the faux stitching. This thread has turned into a big discussion about the overall interior of the car and you seem surprised by that.

Well mostly get a feel what people over in the US think about this sorta thing. Premium specced car with a Premium trim option sounds pretty premium to me and faux stitching is not premium. Hence I was wondering what people think about this. Most people seem to think its fine or say some compromises have to be made. Its just this compromise doesn't make sense to me, not when you consider you bought a Premium spec with a Premium trim option that doesn't change the stock price.

And well if we are quiet nothing will be done for sure. And with this new Camaro's interior released I feel people have something to compare it too when making arguments could have been interesting but no one really brought it up which is funny.

 

[chopsui]

No one is saying it costs $20k to do. That's just sheer ignorance stated more than once now that is far from the point.

Higher price cars have higher expectations. They have more profit as well where the manufacturer can provide more detail. Exactly the same reason every Lamborghini that goes out goes into a light tunnel and is hand inspected for paint defects and manually corrected as well as every panel gapped by hand. The cost of the car can justify the detail. You wont see that on a car under $100k off the assembly line, period.

A $30k car simply cannot afford every luxury. Supply/demand and cost points to meet. Most aren't willing to pay $50k for a Mustang for more refined detail; it's a muscle car not a luxury/import.

Oh for crying out loud. We're talking about two pieces of plastic being replaced by two better pieces of plastic. Your story about Lamborghinis is completely irrelevant.

Since you're avoiding the question, let me ask it this way, how much should the Mustang cost in order for the center stack to get the same stitching as the rest of the interior?

Another thing. We are talking about an option. An option. If you don't want the option of real stitching, then you don't have to get it. All the OP is saying is that the option ought to include matching stitching on the center stack, even if he has to pay more.

I cannot believe people are trying to argue against this. Of course it was done for cost reasons. That doesn't make it the right choice.

 

[Blk2015GT]

Oh for crying out loud. We're talking about two pieces of plastic being replaced by two better pieces of plastic. Your story about Lamborghinis is completely irrelevant.

Since you're avoiding the question, let me ask it this way, how much should the Mustang cost in order for the center stack to get the same stitching as the rest of the interior?

Another thing. We are talking about an option. An option. If you don't want the option of real stitching, then you don't have to get it. All the OP is saying is that the option ought to include matching stitching on the center stack, even if he has to pay more.

I cannot believe people are trying to argue against this. Of course it was done for cost reasons. That doesn't make it the right choice.

It makes it a moot point because it is NOT an option so bitching about it makes no difference and won't change Ford's decision. The ONLY solutions are go get it custom made or buy another car, case closed. If you have the money to be willing to spend on the upgrade the small center stack wont cost that much for a shop to stitch in white or full leather.

 

[VTECSAUCE]

Right, in the US its cheap. A top spec one here in Spain is $56000, and luckily we are one of the cheaper countries! So at that price point i don't want to see fake anything. If it's meant to be plastic then fine, but if it's meant to look like leather, then i expect it to be leather.

that's not Ford's fault. That's just an import tax your country imposes. Again you're getting a 435bhp V8. If that isn't something you want you have choices, last I checked Spain wasn't communist.

 

[TampaBear67]

My issue with the Faux Stitching is that it just SCREAMS 70's/80's to me. I grew up with 70's Fords with Faux Stitching on the Dash and Door Panels and had Aunts with Oldsmobiles in the 70's and 80's and that's Exactly what the Faux Stitching on the 2015 reminds me of. The only thing that could possibly make it worse is if it were molded in Metallic Mint Green Vinyl. If there wasn't an option to upgrade to the true Stitched Eyebrows it would honestly be a Deal Breaker to Me, the Center Stack does Really Bother Me, and I'll probably look into having those side pieces wrapped to match the Brows eventually.

 

[VTECSAUCE]

http://www.redlinegoods.com/Mustang15shiftboot.php

They only have a few things so far but they sell top notch custom material. I'm sure if there is enough demand they will give you the option to replace the material ppl keep bitching about. To me it looks fine...Its a Ford not a BMW and the price certainly reflects that, sorry if you're overseas and get that nasty import tax...

 

[Blk2015GT]

http://www.redlinegoods.com/Mustang15shiftboot.php

They only have a few things so far but they sell top notch custom material. I'm sure if there is enough demand they will give you the option to replace the material ppl keep bitching about. To me it looks fine...Its a Ford not a BMW and the price certainly reflects that, sorry if you're overseas and get that nasty import tax...

Bingo. Go aftermarket (as you see it's not that expensive) or live with it's a Ford and not a Land Rover or some luxury vehicle.

 

[VTECSAUCE]

Ford spent a decent amount of money on R+D to make this car. They didn't build upon another car or an older variant, its completely new from the ground up. Over the next few years they need to get what they can back before they make a refresh. This is nothing new. Every smart business savvy company does this. GM needs to take from their parts bin and make something look new and fresh and appealing while keeping cost down and sales up. IMHO this argument is stupid. I don't like the exhaust system on this car, that doesn't mean I'm going to bitch and throw a hissy fit that Ford didn't appeal to MY standards. It's the best bargain I could find for what it has to offer and it fit my needs and wants. As for the things that I'd like to change, there's a vast aftermarket opening up for this car. It'll give me a chance to make the car more my own.

 

[Burningcoals]

No offense, but I honestly don't want to see a leather clad dashboard. I'd rather have soft plastics. They last longer.

Real leather goes down the tubes after a few years. Vinyl/Leather Trim is not just cost saving, but it also wears better.

And I like the plastic door / drink cover on my '14. Thanks.

Also, the new Camaro interior is going to look very similar to a Malibu's interior, because that's where it came from. GM claims the Camaro is all new, but it's really not. It's a frankenstein car with the platform coming from Caddy, interior from the Malibu, and god only knows where they got those two air-vents in front of the shifter from. GM's been doing this for decades. The only car to have a TRUE platform to itself has always been the Corvette. EVerything else they make is rummaged from the parts bins of other vehicles with a different body style.

And anybody that wants a push-button e-brake is a little strange. These are pony cars after all.

The 2016 Camaro is designed to look like a Transformer. It's going to sell, but it doesn't impress me. I've seen way too many GM interiors literally fall apart after a year or two. You can really tell that they tend to skip on R&D when it comes to their interiors and the way they put a car together. I would honestly rather own a Challenger if the Mustang had never existed.

I had the over head dome light cover literally fall on my head in a GM vehicle, when we took it to get fixed, the tech offered to super-glue it and the button that fell off the shifter.... That was GM's "official" fix... Superglue. I mean c'mon now.

A HUD would be nice. Absolutely. But take a look at the C5 HUDS. They're breaking and falling in on themselves, and it's a pain to fix. I'd wait for a quality piece to come out that will last years. The C7 Nav systems have their issues too. The grass is NOT always greener on the other side people but feel free to find out for yourself.

The things we say about "well it's a 30-40k car" are the same things the C7 vette owners say about their horrendous orange peel and panel gap issues. "Well it's only a 70k car."

Be happy with what you have, or be prepared to spend a LOT more money in both the short-run and the long run. Those high priced Merc's and BMW's not only come with an initial high price, but their maintenance fees are astromonical too.

Oh and the current gen Camaro's are currently suffering from Dash cracks where the passenger side airbag is located in the upper-dash. That's quality material there.

And the Camaro's 4 banger option is crap compared to the Ecoboost. Which is why GM had to hype a better V6 and V8 option. The LT1 came out of the Vette and was redesigned to fit the smaller chassis of the new platform camaro.

The best Camaro was the 2010-2012 Camaro. IMHO. The Best Mustang was the 2013-2014 Mustang. Those are just my opinions. This all "new" Camaro though, is a parts bin project. on GM's part to save money. It's really is just another GM Frankenstein vehicle with a different body slapped onto it.

Some people can find anything to complain about to make their position seem valid. I am no super fan of GM either.

But your rant did nothing to touch on the real good stuff about the Camaro6 and the interior is miles ahead of the Malibu interior and only has a few similarities. People called the Mustang a mash up Fusion. There will always be parts of other cars that are incorporated into a look or design.

Lets not forget.

455HP/455TQ LT1, 8 Speed Auto, Rev-matching Manual, TFT Display fully digital speedo, Heated Steering wheel, HUD, Active-Exhaust, better LED interior lighting, Soft-touch everywhere, Magnaride suspension, infotainment joystick, wireless-charging.

To me that's a long list of stuff missing on the Mustang.

For what its worth, the Mustang is much better looking and has much better visibility.

GM added pretty much every feature you would want in a car, where do we go from here? Cool thing is, the next Mustang will probably have all these features.. yay!

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