Mustang interior update.....

[Blk2015GT]

Explain to me how buying a pony car is adolescent?

Well to be fair to part his statement, I do agree that the Camaro interior is a bit adolescent in the 2016; like it was designed around a 16-20 year old's taste. The S550 cockpit is just a lot classier/tasteful looking in my opinion.


On the topic, people are free to trade in their Mustangs and get a $100,000+ car for a nicer interior. You get what you pay for (but not always as mentioned evne BMW and Audi use hard plastic in their interiors are some cost way more than our S550s).

Remember, you paid $25-45k for the car, not $100-200k. There are limits to what materials can be budgeted into the car with the high hp engine, tech, brakes, aluminum panels, etc. and keep it at an affordable price point.

Go sit in a 2005-2009 S197 and then complain about a cheap POS interior. The S550 is night and day to just a few years ago how good its gotten.

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[Todd15Fastback]

Well to be fair to part his statement, I do agree that the Camaro interior is a bit adolescent in the 2016; like it was designed around a 16-20 year old's taste. The S550 cockpit is just a lot classier/tasteful looking in my opinion.

I agree with that part for sure

 

[BoomBoy]

I ordered Premium and I expected the Premier Trim to be the standard but it was not. Granted I should have researched more but it's my only issue with it.

 

[Double]

On the topic, people are free to trade in their Mustangs and get a $100,000+ car for a nicer interior. You get what you pay for (but not always as mentioned evne BMW and Audi use hard plastic in their interiors are some cost way more than our S550s).

Remember, you paid $25-45k for the car, not $100-200k. There are limits to what materials can be budgeted into the car with the high hp engine, tech, brakes, aluminum panels, etc. and keep it at an affordable price point.

It doesn't cost another 50-150k to not have Ford mold some faux stitching into those side panels or the dash for that matter. Not designing the faux stitching into the material would have been free..... Not saying it needs to be replaced with Italian leather and cat guts for stitching. If the dash can be upgraded to real stitching why not those side bits ?

You are over exaggerating those prices A LOT. Although when it comes to some Porsches I have seen, freaking 10k for full contrast stitching in the interior, while all they do is change the color of the stitching..... But when you are talking those kind of cars its just the premium of exclusivity you are paying for nothing else. Faux stitching might be a trend in the US but I really dislike it. And looking at the Camaro it seems that its doable without paying 100-200k. Yes we dunno the material quality but thats not what we are talking about here.

PS: I rather have no faux stitching at all just a plain side piece of soft plastic would have been nicer and more tasteful.

 

[cosmo]

Explain to me how buying a pony car is adolescent?

You're buying a vehicle which is impractical (or at least not optimized) to supporting a family or helping with running errands, and gets relatively poor gas mileage (compared to what else you could buy for the money) while being kind of pricey. The only reasons you're getting it is for the satisfaction of speed and looks, whether it be the look of the car or the looks you get in the car. This chunk of change used to buy the Mustang easily could've bought a Fusion/Taurus, and used the excess to go on a trip with the family or invest it.

I'm completely guilty of it, and acknowledge it. I could've easily have bought a Taurus or something more practical, but I bought something that was fun and kind of gaudy.

 

[Blk2015GT]

It doesn't cost another 50-150k to not have Ford mold some faux stitching into those side panels or the dash for that matter. Not designing the faux stitching into the material would have been free..... /QUOTE]

My point was when you get into high priced cars you get more. Your opinion that the faux stitching looks worse then without, many other say otherwise.

 

[Qwkynuf]

It doesn't cost another 50-150k to not have Ford mold some faux stitching into those side panels or the dash for that matter. Not designing the faux stitching into the material would have been free..... Not saying it needs to be replaced with Italian leather and cat guts for stitching. If the dash can be upgraded to real stitching why not those side bits ?

You are over exaggerating those prices A LOT. Although when it comes to some Porsches I have seen, freaking 10k for full contrast stitching in the interior, while all they do is change the color of the stitching..... But when you are talking those kind of cars its just the premium of exclusivity you are paying for nothing else. Faux stitching might be a trend in the US but I really dislike it. And looking at the Camaro it seems that its doable without paying 100-200k. Yes we dunno the material quality but thats not what we are talking about here.

PS: I rather have no faux stitching at all just a plain side piece of soft plastic would have been nicer and more tasteful.

You don't like the stitching. I get it.

So, buy something else. Why is this hard?

There are hundreds of makes and models of cars on the market. Find one that suits you. This one clearly doesn't.

Maybe it's just me, but I am having trouble understanding how "fake" vs "real" stitching could have this kind of emotional impact???

 

[Double]

You don't like the stitching. I get it.

So, buy something else. Why is this hard?

There are hundreds of makes and models of cars on the market. Find one that suits you. This one clearly doesn't.

Maybe it's just me, but I am having trouble understanding how "fake" vs "real" stitching could have this kind of emotional impact???

"fake" or "real" ill still be getting a Mustang... doesn't mean we cannot have a discussion about it right ?

The main issue is that the Premium trim upgrade only lets you upgrade the dash faux stitching into real stitching... why not the side pieces ?

The fact you can create such a mismatch in the interior just gets me wondering why they wouldn't fix this ? Its really odd. Just like the new Mercedes navigational screen.... no clue how on earth they managed to come up with that.

 

[Spartan]

I'm really not impressed with the Chevy interior...its kinda all over the place.

What Ford did was keep the interior classic looking yet modernized it while giving it a much higher quality appearance, look and feel.

I look at that Camaro and I immediately think video game, Tron, Dodge dart. It's all over the place and just way way too busy.

 

[ktp1598]

Perhaps they didn't think the stiching would be worth the cost if the machinery was prohibitively expensive and complex. Maybe the premier package was last minute in the design phase and the people in charge said gimme what you've got or nothing. Who knows. No one I've showed my car to has noticed. I think what you get for $395 is well worth it. I can easily spend that kind of change overnight in Gatlinburg. This I keep for the life of the car.

 

[RemoteSenses]

Man, I sure am glad we have so many car designers and engineers on this website to weigh in their opinion! /s

Seriously, do people not understand that it's 2015 and you're buying a Ford? If you want more solid materials on the dash, and real leather throughout the car, in a sports/performance/muscle car, you're going to have to spend way more than ~$30k. In car designing, manufacturers still have to have a balance on what they spend their money on. Do they want a beautiful looking interior but a meh exterior? Do you have an engine with a lot of horsepower? Or not so much? Spend the money on a better clutch vs not so great clutch. Deciding all of that while still having to keep the weight of the car in their designs makes things a bit more difficult than everyone around here seems to think. It's not as simple as "just throw in some more real leather there, and some different materials here". Not only would it add weight, it would also cost more.

Anywayyyyy, with all of that said, I still find the interior of this car to be fantastic. I'm coming from an economy car (Chevy Cruze) and before that (Grand AM) so as soon as I sat in this thing, I thought it was great. On top of all of that, I only have the base model and I find it fantastic FOR THE PRICE. I paid about $25k for my car. This Mustang was only about $3,000 more than the previous Cruze that I owned, and I can promise you that the speed and power alone make up that price different, AND the interior in the base Mustang is light years better than the Cruze I had.

Also worth mentioning, my fiance has a newer Focus that is almost full loaded (leather seats, sport package, heated seats) pretty much everything except the nav, and her final price on that car was almost $26k - MORE THAN MY MUSTANG! And I find the interior on that car to be god awful. You want to talk about hard plastic? The entire dash in that Focus looks like it came out of a Fisher Price box.

It's like there are just no proper comparisons here. You have people comparing a $30k muscle car to cars that cost upwards of $50k. Or you have people comparing a muscle car to a more economy car that costs around the same - without considering the tradeoffs, i.e economy car has slightly better interior for price, however, has no where near the same handling or horsepower.

If you want everything, go spend another $20,000 and you can probably get the horsepower, handling, interior, etc all together. If you want an American muscle car for an affordable price with a very nice interior for their price range, get a Mustang.

 

[Double]

Man, I sure am glad we have so many car designers and engineers on this website to weigh in their opinion! /s

Seriously, do people not understand that it's 2015 and you're buying a Ford? If you want more solid materials on the dash, and real leather throughout the car, in a sports/performance/muscle car, you're going to have to spend way more than ~$30k. In car designing, manufacturers still have to have a balance on what they spend their money on. Do they want a beautiful looking interior but a meh exterior? Do you have an engine with a lot of horsepower? Or not so much? Spend the money on a better clutch vs not so great clutch. Deciding all of that while still having to keep the weight of the car in their designs makes things a bit more difficult than everyone around here seems to think. It's not as simple as "just throw in some more real leather there, and some different materials here". Not only would it add weight, it would also cost more.

Anywayyyyy, with all of that said, I still find the interior of this car to be fantastic. I'm coming from an economy car (Chevy Cruze) and before that (Grand AM) so as soon as I sat in this thing, I thought it was great. On top of all of that, I only have the base model and I find it fantastic FOR THE PRICE. I paid about $25k for my car. This Mustang was only about $3,000 more than the previous Cruze that I owned, and I can promise you that the speed and power alone make up that price different, AND the interior in the base Mustang is light years better than the Cruze I had.

Also worth mentioning, my fiance has a newer Focus that is almost full loaded (leather seats, sport package, heated seats) pretty much everything except the nav, and her final price on that car was almost $26k - MORE THAN MY MUSTANG! And I find the interior on that car to be god awful. You want to talk about hard plastic? The entire dash in that Focus looks like it came out of a Fisher Price box.

It's like there are just no proper comparisons here. You have people comparing a $30k muscle car to cars that cost upwards of $50k. Or you have people comparing a muscle car to a more economy car that costs around the same - without considering the tradeoffs, i.e economy car has slightly better interior for price, however, has no where near the same handling or horsepower.

If you want everything, go spend another $20,000 and you can probably get the horsepower, handling, interior, etc all together. If you want an American muscle car for an affordable price with a very nice interior for their price range, get a Mustang.

Its like you read nothing in this whole thread and just posted something random.... this has nothing to do with what this thread is about.

Ill make it easy for you. What do you think about the faux stitching and the fact that when you upgrade to Premium trim it only changes the faux trim on the dash and not the sides of the console ? Leaving you with only some of the faux stitching removed. You end up with a weird mismatched interior that's a big oversight if you ask me.

Weird how people keep adding 20-200k to the price of a Mustang for just changing those two sides of the faux stitching stuff...

 

[Blk2015GT]

Do I love the faux stitching concept? No. They could have done it better yes. But for under $40k with leather, a 435hp engine, brembo brakes, etc? Probably not.

And considering I've driven the car 1800 miles in 5 months, I had no need to buy a more expensive sports car.

It's a Ford Mustang at the end of the day. It is miles ahead of the previous Mustang interiors and what you get for $40k or less (power and performance) is frankly crazy. There is no other car under $40k that can perform like the 5.0 GT.

 

[RemoteSenses]

Its like you read nothing in this whole thread and just posted something random.... this has nothing to do with what this thread is about.

Ill make it easy for you. What do you think about the faux stitching and the fact that when you upgrade to Premium trim it only changes the faux trim on the dash and not the sides of the console ? Leaving you with only some of the faux stitching removed. You end up with a weird mismatched interior that's a big oversight if you ask me.

Weird how people keep adding 20-200k to the price of a Mustang for just changing those two sides of the faux stitching stuff...

How is this "something random"? I gave you a full list of reasons as to why the car is the way it is and what you can do to get a better interior (spend more money) and that the interior is actually quite nice for the price (comparison to Focus)

No, I'd say it's more like you haven't read anything in this thread. You just keep saying the same thing over and over. People are giving you legitimate reasons as to why the stitching is the way it is and you just keep saying "no, but I want it this way!!!"

Dude, go buy a luxury car if something that simple is such a big deal to you.

 

[CriticalmassGT]

Right, in the US its cheap. A top spec one here in Spain is $56000, and luckily we are one of the cheaper countries! So at that price point i don't want to see fake anything. If it's meant to be plastic then fine, but if it's meant to look like leather, then i expect it to be leather.

No offense, but I honestly don't want to see a leather clad dashboard. I'd rather have soft plastics. They last longer.

Real leather goes down the tubes after a few years. Vinyl/Leather Trim is not just cost saving, but it also wears better.

And I like the plastic door / drink cover on my '14. Thanks.

Also, the new Camaro interior is going to look very similar to a Malibu's interior, because that's where it came from. GM claims the Camaro is all new, but it's really not. It's a frankenstein car with the platform coming from Caddy, interior from the Malibu, and god only knows where they got those two air-vents in front of the shifter from. GM's been doing this for decades. The only car to have a TRUE platform to itself has always been the Corvette. EVerything else they make is rummaged from the parts bins of other vehicles with a different body style.

And anybody that wants a push-button e-brake is a little strange. These are pony cars after all.

The 2016 Camaro is designed to look like a Transformer. It's going to sell, but it doesn't impress me. I've seen way too many GM interiors literally fall apart after a year or two. You can really tell that they tend to skip on R&D when it comes to their interiors and the way they put a car together. I would honestly rather own a Challenger if the Mustang had never existed.

I had the over head dome light cover literally fall on my head in a GM vehicle, when we took it to get fixed, the tech offered to super-glue it and the button that fell off the shifter.... That was GM's "official" fix... Superglue. I mean c'mon now.

A HUD would be nice. Absolutely. But take a look at the C5 HUDS. They're breaking and falling in on themselves, and it's a pain to fix. I'd wait for a quality piece to come out that will last years. The C7 Nav systems have their issues too. The grass is NOT always greener on the other side people but feel free to find out for yourself.

The things we say about "well it's a 30-40k car" are the same things the C7 vette owners say about their horrendous orange peel and panel gap issues. "Well it's only a 70k car."

Be happy with what you have, or be prepared to spend a LOT more money in both the short-run and the long run. Those high priced Merc's and BMW's not only come with an initial high price, but their maintenance fees are astromonical too.

Oh and the current gen Camaro's are currently suffering from Dash cracks where the passenger side airbag is located in the upper-dash. That's quality material there.

And the Camaro's 4 banger option is crap compared to the Ecoboost. Which is why GM had to hype a better V6 and V8 option. The LT1 came out of the Vette and was redesigned to fit the smaller chassis of the new platform camaro.

The best Camaro was the 2010-2012 Camaro. IMHO. The Best Mustang was the 2013-2014 Mustang. Those are just my opinions. This all "new" Camaro though, is a parts bin project. on GM's part to save money. It's really is just another GM Frankenstein vehicle with a different body slapped onto it.

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