Mustang interior update.....

[Dave2013M3]

I think for the Mustang they should offer like they do with Lincoln, the Black Label. The Mustangs interior while cool to look it does suffer from some serious missteps in my eyes. That big black center console where the shifter is has to be the cheapest plastic mankind has ever made. Its flimsy and scratches easy.

They should offer a black label that updates a lot of the cheapness out of the vehicle. The back seats are terrible, the side panels are all plastic of the same grade as the shifter center console.

The funny thing is, I don't think it would be that expensive to do it.

I'm glad the Camaro stepped up its game, it will force Ford to do the same. As much as Ford said the Camaro really isn't the competition they were aiming at, it still is the main competitor.

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[CriticalmassGT]

Ummm. Yes it is as they are the ones that set the base price for the car. And they know full well what the taxes are in the rest of Europe. Yes what your saying is right for some of the northern countries where tax is based on emissions/fuel consumption, but thats not the case in Spain. Like i said before, Spain has got one of the lowest taxes and its still 56000, and you only pay tax on the base price of the car.
So yes, it is Fords fault because they still set the base price.

Don't forget shipping from the middle of the USA to Spain adds just a tad to the cost as well.

 

[Blk2015GT]

You seem to get it, then seem to don't get it.

The point is, the Camaro has options that the Mustang doesn't even have. Yes, it's subjective if each owner wants them. That's why they're OPTIONS. Optional. Don't have to get them, but you can. That's why the Camaro has better offerings now. I'm not talking about current S550 owners trading in, but I'm talking people cross shopping the two. The Mustang now has the fewest options, plain and simple. No adjustable suspension. No adjustable exhaust. No adjustable HUD, or dash.

The fact that the S550 2016 information has been revealed, and none of this is available unless you go to the GT350 which will be subjected to horrendous ADM for awhile, is disappointing. I would pay for adjustable suspension, and adjustable exhaust for sure. Ford has obviously realized these are attractive options as they will be offering both of them on the GT350, and yet they're keeping it on a exclusive level and not offering it anywhere BUT the GT350. The Mustang will be at least a year behind the Camaro now in terms of offerings, and that's assuming these things are implemented in 2017.

My conclusively point is that everyone is worried about the next thing out that challenges their current purchase; too big an ego. Same with iPhones and Android as someone pointed out. These products are not designed and then boom produced a week later. They are tested for months and even years, and someone else comes out with more features in the meantime because their refresh schedule is different. And then the flip flop begins. There was no magnetic ride in a mass produced sportscm cars 2-3 years ago when the Mustang redesign started, so no reason to think about offering it (except the track vehicles like the GT350). Maybe it will be a 2017 feature since 2016 orders are already open and the features solidified. Mustang had its refresh so it's harder to develop (and tool factories) for major changes. Camaro was just redone and had the later option of upping the options in a new platform from scratch. It is what it is.

Unlike phones a car is a a couple thousand dollar hit instead of $200 for a phone reselling and rebuying. If people are THAT unhappy with their current Mustang by all means sell it and buy a Camaro. Otherwise go outside get in your car and enjoy what you have.

I get we discuss problems here but whining about what could have been (even the topic here of the stitching) is just so petty in the grand scheme. It's not even being a fanboy to a chunk of metal but the constant negative nancy people. You have a 400+hp car for under $40k; something that didn't exist 6 years ago. Enjoy it for what it is.

 

[Charles147]

Rev-matching Manual,

To me that's a long list of stuff missing on the Mustang.

GM added pretty much every feature you would want in a car, where do we go from here? !

No - no thank you. I don't want anymore granny assistance to a manual transmission. Chevy can keep that junk...I think they forgot what "manual" means in transmission. What's next? Might as well take the clutch pedal away at that point...

 

[Spartan]

Latest posts about the Camaro.

"The new seating position is excellent, and the new lower dashboard helps with outward forward visibility. But the Camaro still makes you feel like you're sitting in a bunker, looking out of a gun slit. Ride and handling are outstanding, with the suspension able to soak up track imperfections with ease, while not disturbing either the steering or stability. The brakes feel much stronger as well. The 2015 model's brakes felt squishy and overworked after several laps with journalists at the wheel, but the 2016 model exhibited no fade or softness in the pedal."
-- Aaron Bragman, cars.com

"The Camaro rides on a platform that is significantly lighter than the one used before. You immediately feel this in every aspect of the new car's dynamics, whether you're punching the gas on a straightaway, or braking as hard as you can for a 90-degree corner. This is a smoother, more linear-feeling Camaro, one that doesn't have the heft of the previous model -- and is all the better for it."
-- Nick Kurczewski, New York Daily News


"Welcome to Golden Era II of the muscle car where Chevy, Ford, and Dodge are in a dog -- er, pony -- fight for segment supremacy not unlike the Big Three pickup wars. But where Dodge's ferocious, new, 707-horsepower Challenger Hellcat is the undisputed king of brawn, the Camaro and Mustang are exploring new frontiers for muscle car handling. Frontiers like race tracks -- traditionally venues reserved for introducing track-tuned, alphanumeric-badged beasts like a Z28 or GT500, not a base Camaro ... These aren't your grand-dad's '60s Dream Cruisers that sprinted like stallions from a stoplight but wallowed like pigs through the twisties. Handling? That used to be the stuff of small luxury sedans and sports cars. But with its 2015 Mustang, Ford transformed its pony's front and rear suspensions and leap-frogged the Camaro in handling. Aw, Ford, you just went and made Chevy mad. One year later, and Camaro has answered with a steed ... built on a small luxury sedan chassis. The same Alpha platform used by the sensational, best-in-class Cadillac ATS carving knife. By Turn 2 at Belle Isle, I knew the Gen-6 Camaro was a different animal."
-- Henry Payne, The Detroit News


"Leaner, lighter, faster, tighter -- whether or not you can tell from the pictures, the Chevrolet Camaro, Generation 6, lifts everything up a couple more pegs. It’s almost entirely new, and even before Chevy mentions a word about ZL1/Z28/1LE upgrades, the view from Ford HQ has to be formidable."
-- J.P. Vettraino, Autoweek



"One area where the Camaro hasn't been downsized is in stopping power. Four-piston Brembo brakes are available across the lineup, standard on the SS, and 18-inch Goodyear Eagle Sports are the base tires ... It's not short on glitz, either. The Camaro now has ambient lighting that can be linked to drive modes. There’s even a theatrical “car show” mode that cycles randomly through the entire color spectrum when the Camaro is parked."
-- Marty Padgett, Motor Authority


"More than 300 pounds lighter than the 2015 V6 Camaro, and with a new V6 that delivers more horsepower and torque, the 2016 Camaro lapped faster and easier than the car it replaces. It promises to surprise Mustang and Challenger owners when it goes on sale in the fourth quarter, giving Chevy a strong new performance model."
-- Mark Phelan, Detroit Free Press


"The four-seat interior retains a dual-binnacle design, although the buttons and assorted brightwork appear more polished than the chintzy controls in the outgoing model. Chevrolet promises better-quality materials throughout; based on the current Camaro, that seems nearly unavoidable. There are two eight-inch color screens: one providing key driving information in the instrument cluster, while the other serves as the interface for the latest MyLink infotainment system. The manual emergency brake is replaced by a more space-efficient electronic parking brake. But the dash vents got pushed way low on the console. An LED ambient light system offers 24 different colors, reminding of personalization that Mustang has offered in recent years."
-- Jeff Bartlett, Consumer Reports


"It's interesting that GM chose to debut the Camaro on the warped surfaces of the ride-and-handling loop rather than, say, on the nearby Lutzring road course. What they're saying is that thing is going to work in the real world (they hope). I can now attest that no Camaro ever soaked up a mid-corner bump like this one does -- an impression cemented by a back-to-back drive with the 2015 model. The outgoing car didn't feel thoroughly discombobulated, mind you, but the new one was just that much more graceful. (Yes, a Camaro. Graceful.) On the big hits, the 2016's suspension wasn't visiting the limits of its bump stops like the 2015 model did, and diabolical chatter bumps didn't send it skittering toward the shoulder. Also, that exhaust cutout sounds nice. The 3.6-liter V6 tends to be vocal anyway, so you may as well uncork it."
-- Ezra Dyer, Popular Mechanics

 

[drabon74]

My conclusively point is that everyone is worried about the next thing out that challenges their current purchase; too big an ego. Same with iPhones and Android as someone pointed out. These products are not designed and then boom produced a week later. They are tested for months and even years, and someone else comes out with more features in the meantime because their refresh schedule is different. And then the flip flop begins. There was no magnetic ride in a mass produced sportscm cars 2-3 years ago when the Mustang redesign started, so no reason to think about offering it (except the track vehicles like the GT350). Maybe it will be a 2017 feature since 2016 orders are already open and the features solidified. Mustang had its refresh so it's harder to develop (and tool factories) for major changes. Camaro was just redone and had the later option of upping the options in a new platform from scratch. It is what it is.

Unlike phones a car is a a couple thousand dollar hit instead of $200 for a phone reselling and rebuying. If people are THAT unhappy with their current Mustang by all means sell it and buy a Camaro. Otherwise go outside get in your car and enjoy what you have.

I get we discuss problems here but whining about what could have been (even the topic here of the stitching) is just so petty in the grand scheme. It's not even being a fanboy to a chunk of metal but the constant negative nancy people. You have a 400+hp car for under $40k; something that didn't exist 6 years ago. Enjoy it for what it is.

Then why did you post in this thread? Let people who feel it warrants conversation discuss it.
I like my car but it certainly has areas I'm disappointed in.

 

[Qwkynuf]

People telling me to buy an expensive exclusive luxury car doesn't solve this argument.

If you have two pieces of faux stitching why does upgrading to Premium trim only get rid of the faux stitching on the dashboard ? how can it be called premium trim if the faux stitching remains on those sides ? thats hardly premium(thats Premium spec + Premtium trim even...). I would pay double the price of Premium trim to have that fixed. Even if it were a "Faux stitching delete"

Yes its all a good deal and yes ill buy a Mustang in a heartbeat just trying to have an honest discussion about this... and telling me to buy a different more expensive car that I do not want doesn't solve my issue. My V40 already fills that gap.

PS: The fact I find this a big issue with the Mustang should tell you what I think about the Mustang in general. I love it I just despise faux stitching and Premium trim makes the Dash look awesome its just a massive shame of the two side pieces. And the way Premium trim only upgrades parts of that faux stitching makes me wonder why it just doesnt make sense even from a price stand point and could easily be made into an option.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Discussion: the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas​

By its very definition, "discussion" involves exchanging ideas. To exchange ideas you must be open to alternate viewpoints. You just keep restating the same objection. That is not a discussion. That is a rant.

 

[DB83]

So you want Ford to ship you a car, which they are doing because you asked for it, at a lower base price than they sell in the US so that you don't have to pay as much just because your country has a large import tax? Please tell me you understand why it would actually make sense for Ford to increase the base price when they ship to Europe given the circumstances.

Do you know how much it costs to ship a single car from the states to Europe?
I'll tell you. In a sealed single container with full insurance, less than $2000. Thats for me as a single person. How much do you think it costs ford who ships thousands of cars a month? A LOT LESS THAN THAT!

I didn't ask for ford to sell the mustang in Europe. They did it because they realised the market in Europe was growing and they could make a profit from it. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their heart!!!!!

And again, you did not read!! In Spain, the tax on new cars is not that big we are lucky to be one of the countries in Europe that pay the least for a mustang, but that still equates to 56000 dollars. Are you telling me that you would consider it a bargain if you had to pay 56000 in the US? Didn't think so.

 

[DB83]

Don't forget shipping from the middle of the USA to Spain adds just a tad to the cost as well.

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[Old 5 Oh]

Well that's true of course but just looking at the faux stitching. There are two pieces that have faux stitching, the dash and the sides of the center stack... isn't it odd that with the premium trim upgrade only one of those items gets its faux stitching upgraded ? Looks messed up and makes no sense to have only one piece be upgraded... Its those things that I do not understand, and really set it back.

Seen the new Camaro interior even though its not really my taste it does looks complete and all makes sense. In terms of material choices I dunno if its good or bad but it all fits together and nothing looks out of place. The faux stitching in the Mustang looks really out of place, especially after the Premium trim upgrade. So does the driver screen in a 2015 car.

I've seen the new Camaro. Now it looks like a higher-quality version of Godzilla Meets Tokyo At Night. Still no taste. The Mustang interior, particularly the Premium with PCAG, is leagues better than the Camaro or Challenger, and just not on the same planet with the 14 Mustang. It's also nicer than price-competitive BMWs (235i, 328/335). Sure, the M4 is nicer but it's a $75k car. Not really comparable at all. Ford really scored with the interior of the 15 Mustang. Of anything that you might criticize, that's the wrong thing.

 

[Double]

To get back on topic while still talking about the Camaro, many people stated if you want "real" stitching "buy a luxury car" or "the Mustang is a budget sports car you get what you pay for" and "real stitching is too expensive to put in an interior". So what about the Camaro ? lots of "real" stitching yet it should be the same price as the Mustang right ? So apples to apples comparison here.

We don't know pricing but the Camaro seems to manage the - almost too many - "real" stitched materials around the interior while still offering some great extra features including a semi digital dash, HUD, heated steering wheel and many - prolly expensive - options you also see on exclusive sports cars.

So as I see it comparing apples to apples there should not be any faux stitching in the Mustang when you go for the Premium spec with Premium trim. Or am I really that crazy and is faux stitching a Premium feature these days ?

Hence I feel Ford has to prematurely upgrade its interior and add some features.

 

[redgt]

How many pages are you people going to get out of faux stitching? Seriously, how did you not notice the faux stitching it has to be very obvious if you've written 116 posts about it? Trade your car in for a 16 Camaro with real stitching, the negative equity shouldn't matter since this obviously means so much to you.

 

[P4RKER]

To get back on topic while still talking about the Camaro, many people stated if you want "real" stitching "buy a luxury car" or "the Mustang is a budget sports car you get what you pay for" and "real stitching is too expensive to put in an interior". So what about the Camaro ? lots of "real" stitching yet it should be the same price as the Mustang right ? So apples to apples comparison here.

We don't know pricing but the Camaro seems to manage the - almost too many - "real" stitched materials around the interior while still offering some great extra features including a semi digital dash, HUD, heated steering wheel and many - prolly expensive - options you also see on exclusive sports cars.

So as I see it comparing apples to apples there should not be any faux stitching in the Mustang when you go for the Premium spec with Premium trim. Or am I really that crazy and is faux stitching a Premium feature these days ?

Hence I feel Ford has to prematurely upgrade its interior and add some features.

As I posted earlier how can you possibly know the stitching in the Camaro is real and not faux just like the Mustang from the pictures posted? Your apples to apples comment makes it much more likely that the camaro also has faux stitching.

 

[Double]

Found something pretty interesting in a video where they showcase the Mustangs interior design. If you look at 0:24 and 0:28 you can see both sides of the side pieces of the center console. And I think you can pretty easily tell that's actual stitching, its not contrast but its real thread. All videos and pictures I have seen from owners at any spec it shows molded faux stitching... Wonder why this didn't make it into the Premium rim package.

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[Old 5 Oh]

IMO No one would be talking about this if it wasn't for that amazing Camaro interior that just looks more simple and smart. Especially what they did with their mood lighting vs Mustangs.

Interior design definitely has C7 cues, and I loved the C7 interior.

I guess that's why there are choices. I think the new Camaro interior still looks like Godzilla meets Tokyo At Night, and I wouldn't have one. The Premium interior with Premier CAG is very classy, nicer than the Lincoln I replaced by far, and that's not too shabby for a car that starts well under $30k.

Not sure why anyone would point to low-end BMWs as "better," since BMW is all plastic and vinyl seats until they are well into the $45k range or up. Compared with its competition (Chevy and Dodge pony cars) the Mustang is head, shoulders and torso nicer. Faux stitching on the console or not.

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