MUST have options

[scottpe]

They did. Look up Apple CarPlay. Problem is getting all these manufactures to get on board.

I am not on board with any solution that caters to a single phone/device ecosystem, especially one as closed as Apple's. It needs to work with both Apple and Android, at the very least, to be viable, IMO.

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[Spartan]

I am not on board with any solution that caters to a single phone/device ecosystem, especially one as closed as Apple's. It needs to work with both Apple and Android, at the very least, to be viable, IMO.

As Samsung and others are finding out, the populace is migrating to Apple's closed system. Just offers a better user experience without tons of issues for the end user. I don't see car companies going the Android route because of all the OS issues and just general compatibility problems with how many devices there are out there in Android land. (and please don't turn this thread into an Apple vs Android thread please )

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

As Samsung and others are finding out, the populace is migrating to Apple's closed system. Just offers a better user experience without tons of issues for the end user. I don't see car companies going the Android route because of all the OS issues and just general compatibility problems with how many devices there are out there in Android land. (and please don't turn this thread into an Apple vs Android thread please )

Presented without comment:

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-ios-market-share-data-and-apples-iphone-6-2014-8

I think it's pretty clear that any such system would have to be compatible with multiple operating systems. Given the fact that people will expect it to work 10 or 20 years from now when iOS and Android might not even exist, that seems like an unlikely prospect. So they stick with what they have.

 

[DivineStrike]

I personally feel it should be neither android or apple.

 

[souprmage]

My iPhone can do all of that too. That's why I skipped the Nav option.

I wasn't refuting that. I was refuting those that say to just use a paper map. Navigation is way more than just finding your route.

Phones and In-Car nav obviously can do that.

I've already stated why the phone is a no-go for me. Same functionality, but more hassle to me. I want it built into the car, no muss, no fuss.

But that's just me...

 

[souprmage]

I personally feel it should be neither android or apple.

For sure, it should be a service architecture that is OS independent.

But that is WAY easier said than done, in communications, where vendor lock-in is the norm.

 

[scottpe]

As Samsung and others are finding out, the populace is migrating to Apple's closed system. Just offers a better user experience without tons of issues for the end user.

I am not going to debate the merits of one ecosystem over the other, as I don't think it would prove very fruitful. But I will simply say that I know WAY more people that have jumped from Apple to Android lately than the other way around.

The article that Jimmy posted seems to reinforce my personal observations. Apple has been losing market share steadily for quite some time. The tables have been turned.

A completely device agnostic approach would be best. Just don't know if we'll realistically see that anytime soon. Hope so.

 

[fionic]

I am not on board with any solution that caters to a single phone/device ecosystem, especially one as closed as Apple's. It needs to work with both Apple and Android, at the very least, to be viable, IMO.

+1.

I'd rather go sans-radio if I was forced to use iOS garbage.

 

[Spartan]

Presented without comment:

http://www.businessinsider.com/android-ios-market-share-data-and-apples-iphone-6-2014-8

I think it's pretty clear that any such system would have to be compatible with multiple operating systems. Given the fact that people will expect it to work 10 or 20 years from now when iOS and Android might not even exist, that seems like an unlikely prospect. So they stick with what they have.

The article that Jimmy posted seems to reinforce my personal observations. Apple has been losing market share steadily for quite some time. The tables have been turned.

Well unfortunately, if you know anything about IDC, they are not known at all for reliable information nor even remotely correct data (and they are also funded by Android vendors therefore their reports promote Android %). Shipped is not installed base and on top of it, they count toys and any system that has any version of Android on it as part of their 'shipments.' Being someone who follows the tech industry closely and these IDC and other analysts reports, they are consistently wrong..so wrong I'm shocked anyone pays for their data because it's literally debunked by real facts and #s every time.

"IDC, Gartner and Strategy Analytics have a long history of presenting carefully contrived data in press releases clearly designed to flatter their clients and denigrate their clients' competitors, with Apple being a common target."

If you believe IDC or Gartner or SA and their view that Android is beating Apple, I have a bridge to sell you.

A completely device agnostic approach would be best. Just don't know if we'll realistically see that anytime soon. Hope so.

That would be the best way to go about it. But we know common sense eludes most companies.

If a car company though is going to pick a car system between Apple and Android, they are going to pick Apple now that Apple is available.

What they should do is develop both and let you pick your infotainment system in your car depending on your phone or let you wipe and reinstall if you swap brands.

Anyway, I'm not commenting on the Apple/Android anymore. Back to the Mustang!

 

[DivineStrike]

Here if you guys care to further discuss Apple vs whoever whether it be in the car, phone or pc

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/apple-vs-android-3088.html?p=83364#post83364

 

[Brent302]

Here if you guys care to further discuss Apple vs whoever whether it be in the car, phone or pc

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/apple-vs-android-3088.html?p=83364#post83364

Thank you I'm about to throw up from apple v android debate

 

[DivineStrike]

Thank you I'm about to throw up from apple v android debate

You're welcome lol

I see demand and I supply

 

[ranchero]

I am disappointed that a thread dedicated to options desired at a forum dedicated to a particular automobile has devolved to a discussion on "Apple", "android", "IOS" and the like.

I don't care about any of that stuff - at all.

I care about automobiles a lot and Mustangs in particular (among others). I am especially interested in the new Mustang because of the change to IRS (something mechanical) and the four cylinder turbo (again mechanical) - in addition to the other improvements in this new generation of Mustang. I'd like to ignore completely any computer related stuff when driving a fun car with a manual transmission; I don't want to monkey with anything that relates to computers on an office desk or in a "smart" phone. Or, at least if I have to do so when operating the car that stuff needs to be as invisible, as non-intrusive as possible.

Now I do admit to being a neanderthal by not wanting to use a NAV system in a new Mustang; I'd rather use my maps for driving in the mountain west. But gee, there is absolutely no joy at all in computer systems for me and especially in discussing that stuff when contemplating a new generation Mustang - an exciting, interesting mechanical device.

- ranchero -

 

[scottpe]

Thank you I'm about to throw up from apple v android debate

Yeah, I tried to word my posts carefully, and I don't think this thread has quite devolved into an Apple vs Android debate yet, but I can see it headed there real quick. Brand loyalty aside, I still stand behind my original point: making a car compatible with only one device ecosystem is just a bad way to go, period. It only serves to please one subset of customers, while alienating another.

 

[scottpe]

I am disappointed that a thread dedicated to options desired at a forum dedicated to a particular automobile has devolved to a discussion on "Apple", "android", "IOS" and the like.

I don't care about any of that stuff - at all.

While I can respect your position, please keep in mind that the Mustang has a lot of tech features, like it or not. As such, discussion of those tech features, their functionality and compatibility with other tech devices is par for the course. That being said, I agree that this particular thread should not be allowed to get too in depth into such discussions. I've made my point. I don't intend to pursue it any further.

And discussion of the perceived value of the tech features in general is obviously very subjective and probably deserving of its own thread, assuming that debate hasn't already been beaten to death somewhere else on this forum.

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