Manual Transmission Remote Start

[RevvdMedia]

So as I intend to drive my Mustang year round, I would like to have a remote starter installed. I know the automatics all come with remote starters, but I opted for manual. I have called a few dealers locally and it sounds like the bypass module has not yet been released for manual transmission, and integration supposedly will not work as they won't integrate with the manual transmission (not like the old school cars that were easier to tap into?).

Anyone here in the industry know if the bypass module is on its way?

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[TricarboNate]

I highly doubt you will ever have the option for factory remote start.

Might want to start looking into aftermarket options. Even then, it is a pain, since a lot of shops don't like to install it in manual cars.

 

[kiko1]

I have not seen a bypass module yet available. keep checking www.omegaweblink.com every now and then for the module. Once it's on there, the install will be no big deal.

 

[Gmacguyver]

Ford will probably never put a remote start system on a manual transmission car for liability and safety reasons.

It may be a while before the aftermarket even makes a remote start for this car. The bypass module has to literally mimic the key and the my ford key is pretty complex. Then the module needs to mimic the push to start sequence to start up which on some cars needs special wiring.

Also I know for the viper systems, in order for installers to install a remote start in a manual car LEGALLY, they have program it into manual mode which you have to do a sequence every time you get out of the car for in order to remote start later and if you open a door any time before you remote start the vehicle you have to redo the sequence which can be very annoying.

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[RevvdMedia]

Yes, I did mean I was looking into aftermarket remote start options. I am versed in the "sequence" required for integration on a manual and I have no issues with it. I did contact Fortin and the did say they expect a module to be released in the next few weeks...

 

[Gmacguyver]

Yes, I did mean I was looking into aftermarket remote start options. I am versed in the "sequence" required for integration on a manual and I have no issues with it. I did contact Fortin and the did say they expect a module to be released in the next few weeks...

Nice, just checked out there website, I've never heard of them. I've only dealt with Directed, ADS, and Compustar. I know Directed, and ADS are woking on solutions as well. How is Fortin? Have you used them before?

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[NotMarc]

I'm also waiting for fortin to release their support. Their package is about $150 and close to plug and play and uses the factory remote.


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[RevvdMedia]

I have never really inquired with my installers as to which bypass they used, so I'm not too familiar with Fortin, but I hear they are reputable. I just don't want to be left out in the cold, so I will go with the first reputable release.

 

[draco24433]

Is not exactly the prettiest but it may just work. I Hope this helps!

How many times have you heard the horror stories about remote starts installed in a manual tranny cars that got messed up when some idiot left it in gear and the car took off without a driver?


Back when remote starts were first coming out, it happened to my friend. We worked at a car audio/security place and decided to try and come up with a trick to overcome that. It's really fairly simple to do.


First, remove the console and any parts that will restrict you from getting at the shifter area of the car. Make sure the car has the E brake on and it's in neutral. Now, here's the general idea of how this works. Each car will be different in determining screw placement and depth and such. Knowing the general workings of this mod will allow you to determine better where and how to place everything.

You take 4 sheet metal screws or drywall screws. You will want to place them in a box fashion into the sheetmetal of the floorboard around the opening for the shifter and you will want a good 1/2"- 1" of the srew still sticking up. For example's sake, we're gonna think of them as the posts that hold up the ropes around a boxing ring- and the hole the shifter comes thru is the boxing ring itself. You will then take electrical tape and wrap it around the exposed part that is sticking up of all the screws- wrap each screw well and induvidually. Then you will take a spring from one of the clicker style pens and stretch it out a bit. This spring is going to make up the "ropes" of your "boxing ring". You want the spring taut between all your posts, yet have enough spring left in them to stretch betweeen the posts. You'll want to wrap a couple coils around each screw, just to make sure it's held to them well and in place, but also make sure that the spring is riding on the electrical tape and not hitting any metal from the screw or the car.


You then take the (-) safety switch wire from the remote starter, the one that will not allow the remote start to work if it sees a ground, and you connect it to the spring or "rope" of the ring. Now, if you have positioned your screws correctly, this is how it works...

When the car is in neutral, the ropes are just sitting there, no juice, no ground- just at rest. If you place the transmission in any gear, the metal shaft of the shifter should hit the spring, and since that shaft is grounded thru the engine and chassis, it will make that spring read a ground(-). That will in turn give the (-) safety switch wire a ground(-) and not allow the remote starter to start the car.


Here's kind of a rough drawing I made a few years ago to kinda convey they idea....

 

[draco24433]

BTW, I did not come up with that. It was Burton from 26liter.us. A Mitsubishi Starion website.

 

[Renner]

Also I know for the viper systems, in order for installers to install a remote start in a manual car LEGALLY, they have program it into manual mode which you have to do a sequence every time you get out of the car for in order to remote start later and if you open a door any time before you remote start the vehicle you have to redo the sequence which can be very annoying.

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This is exactly why i would never do it on a MT...such a pain in the ass

 

[RevvdMedia]

This is exactly why i would never do it on a MT...such a pain in the ass

I had this sequence set up in my '09 Chev Cobalt SS (manual transmission) and it never bothered me. The sequence was something along the lines of put the car in neutral, pull the ebrake, exit the car, shut the door, and it turns off. Of course, yes, if you opened the door before remote starting, it would reset, but in -15 or colder, you only ever went to your car if you needed to go somewhere, otherwise there is no reason to go outside lol.

I found it much more annoying on my Automatic Kia Sportage with push button start that due to the security system and how they set it up, when remote started, the engine would shut off when opening the door, so the remote start counts as one start, then you have to start it when you get in...a double start ever remote start. There was no way to get around it. Apparently something came out a year after I installed to get around this, but I never had anything re-installed.

You're willing to compromise some means of convenience when you need to go somewhere at -35C. I'm willing to deal with not being able to open the doors without starting, or dealing with a manual cycle to remote start so you can have a warmer car lol. I NEVER leave the car in gear with a remote starter. If I take it to the dealer, I assume they left it in gear, thus do not remote start it. It's all about some level of compromise. I'd still rather have that inconvenience than an auto, but that's just me.

 

[drbrian722]

Here's the basic idea done with IR instead of wire.
http://www.eeinspired.com/NSS.html

This can also be done with springs and simplified a bit.

Not a mustang (obviously)

I've also seen people use a magnet and switch on the actual linkage so that the stick must be in center neutral for the circuit to complete.

 

[pockama]

2015/16 Mustang with stick shift has 4 buttons remote.
It's illegal to have 5 buttons remote with remote start on stick shift.
You can unable the option for remote start but you need a special software.
I don't recommend it!

 

[cop on my back]

A guy where I work had a remote start on his old Toyota PU and I gues he left it in reverse. He started it from his office window and watched it back up through the parking lot, over a ledge and into the Pacific Ocean. Pretty damn funny.

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