Manual Trans. Thud when shifting

[FiveO]

It annoys the hell out of me, each and every time I hear it. Which is about 80% of stop and go driving. These things are too expensive to sound like they're falling apart. No excuse not to do it right. They continue to raise msrp, but have the same flaws.

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[FordService]

No offense, but many of us have already done this only to be told it is normal, and all the cars on the lot do it. I already took mine in to be told the same. I think many here don't want to waste their time to be told there is nothing that can be done and that it is "Normal."

There has been all kinds of speculation on here as to the cause, but so far no one has been able to verify an aftermarket solution that can repeatedly solve the problem. I doubt Ford is going to go out of their way to fix something that isn't causing failures at this point. We are approaching a year since production started and it's still a mystery thud. Until there is a TSB the dealers aren't gonna do squat.

I understand where you’re coming from, GT 50. Ford technicians are the most qualified to determine the root cause of your vehicle's problem and that is why we always recommend having cars inspected at a dealership. If you have already had your vehicle inspected, your VIN will allow me to review the technician's comments and document the issue for Ford Engineering to review.

Only documented problems within the Ford system can be properly reviewed by Ford Engineering. I encourage anyone who has experienced this thud issue on their 2015 Mustang and has visited their dealer, to PM me your VIN, dealers, mileage, full names, and best daytime numbers so I can escalate this for you.

Deysha

 

[serviator]

Another customer with the thud issue

Hi Deysha,

I just created an account here, to let you know that I am also experiencing the thud issue in my 2015 Ford Mustang GT Performance Package car. It's really noticable when I shift from and to 1, 2, 3, 4 and it's quieter but still there shifting 5 and 6.

I have visited two dealerships and both places a tech went on a test drive, only to tell me it was normal driving characteristics. At one of the dealerships, they let me go on a short test drive in another new 2015 Mustang GT which had the same noise when shifting.

When I originally test drove several 2015 Mustang GTs, none of them had the thud. My own car didn't develop the thud until I had owned it for a couple of weeks.

This is my second brand new Mustang and I spent $45,000 on this one. I am a huge Mustang fan, but if this is considered normal characteristics, I will not be buying another Mustang. I know my car is built on a $23,800 platform, but it is no excuse for poor workmanship.

I will PM you my VIN and other relevant information, and hope you can help solve this issue.

Thanks!
Michael

 

[2015MagneticGt]

I understand, guys. Please let me know if you do bring them in, so I can escalate your concerns for you.

Deysha

I too have been told it's normal. There is no way its normal as I have had 6 other Manual transmission high performance cars. This is my first ford, if this is normal with a ford I will not be buying another.

Plus if you look at the 11-14 5.0's there have been quite a few mt82 failures.
The techs really need to get on this, and figure out what is going on here.:frusty:

 

[FordService]

Hi Deysha,
I just created an account here, to let you know that I am also experiencing the thud issue in my 2015 Ford Mustang GT Performance Package car. It's really noticable when I shift from and to 1, 2, 3, 4 and it's quieter but still there shifting 5 and 6. ...

Welcome and thanks, serviator! I’ll get back to you as soon as possible.

I too have been told it's normal. There is no way its normal as I have had 6 other Manual transmission high performance cars. This is my first ford, if this is normal with a ford I will not be buying another. ...

You’re welcome to get a second opinion at a different Ford Dealer, 2015MagneticGt. Let me know if you’d like me to escalate this for you as well.

Deysha

 

[BLKONBLK2015]

I picked up my 2015 a few weeks ago. Its a Premium GT with PP. I noticed the thud almost immediately. Annoying, but not wasting my time at the dealer only to be told it's normal. I do have a dash rattle that I am going to take it in for......way more annoying...

 

[EchoTango]

I picked up my 2015 a few weeks ago. Its a Premium GT with PP. I noticed the thud almost immediately. Annoying, but not wasting my time at the dealer only to be told it's normal. I do have a dash rattle that I am going to take it in for......way more annoying...

This is not "NORMAL":headbonk: I agree. I'm not wasting hours at dealer for an answer, "It's Normal." If it were normal, all manual cars would do it and they don't. Ford is losing sales over this and its newfound rep. They've had plenty of time over the past five years to engineer this problem. Man, we put people on the Moon 46 years ago, and we brought them back. Ford can surely fix this and soon. :ford:

 

[kris5597]

It's technically not considered normal for "Ford", however, in the BMW world where Getrag's are used more frequently, it is "normal." A good buddy of mine has owned nothing but BMWs his entire life, all manuals with Getrag transmissions, he drives me car and looks at me and goes, " this is a Getrag transmission isn't it." He explained that every BMW with Getrag transmissions that he has driven does the thud and the notchy gear shifts. Funny thing, in the BMW world, people have issues with the clunkiness, but never problems with failure.

Kris

 

[EchoTango]

It's technically not considered normal for "Ford", however, in the BMW world where Getrag's are used more frequently, it is "normal." A good buddy of mine has owned nothing but BMWs his entire life, all manuals with Getrag transmissions, he drives me car and looks at me and goes, " this is a Getrag transmission isn't it." He explained that every BMW with Getrag transmissions that he has driven does the thud and the notchy gear shifts. Funny thing, in the BMW world, people have issues with the clunkiness, but never problems with failure.

Kris

I owned a new Bimmer Z3, 3.01 for years and it never had a clunk. Likewise with a 350Z. I don't think German engineers would allow any inconsistent performance. I love my GT and just want Ford to at least address the problem. I hope they fix the Euro version or the old men on Top Gear are going to be pretty nasty.

 

[foghat]

This is not "NORMAL":headbonk: I agree. I'm not wasting hours at dealer for an answer, "It's Normal." If it were normal, all manual cars would do it and they don't. Ford is losing sales over this and its newfound rep. They've had plenty of time over the past five years to engineer this problem. Man, we put people on the Moon 46 years ago, and we brought them back. Ford can surely fix this and soon. :ford:

I don't like the thud (I hate it in fact), I wish the thud would go away, and I hope Ford does something about it (but I doubt it).

Regardless, your logic is quite flawed.

If every manual car had the exact same transmission and the rest of drive train and only the mustangs had the thud, maybe you'd be on to something.

It is very possible that this is normal behavior for this transmission paired with the rest of this drive train.

 

[smokinzx14r]

I have changed everything , clutch , shifter , fluid , drive shaft ,clutch line , axles and I still have the same thud ...I guess we live with it until Ford fixes it by TSB or Recall ...You can send a report of this to the NTSB , might help if we all did ..? https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml

 

[EXP Jawa]

I was told by a Ford engineer that was close to this car's driveline that "Ford can't fix the transmission", the implication being that Ford wasn't in a position to get Getrag to make changes to it. I'm not sure why that would be - they certainly lean on suppliers for lower profile issues - but they were pursuing NVH concerns elsewhere in the drivetrain. At least that was what I was told at the time, around a year ago. YMMV...

 

[Nemesys]

lol they arent going to recall anything because some people dont like the thump


Recalls are for hardcore safety issues that can cause death.

 

[EXP Jawa]

Recalls are for anything that might be a significant design or manufacturing error, something that would lead to the product being disabled or partially non-functional. Situations that are safety related are mandatory and get the most attention, but it is not limited to that. A good example was the recall for the '99 SVT Cobra, where Ford pulled back all the cars to clean out their manifolds. The cars were certainly functional and safe, but failed to deliver on their claimed performance.

If Ford determined that the transmissions had an assembly error that would make them noisy or difficult to operate, they could conceivably recall the car to fix the said error. However, I'd bet that it would only occur if they decided the bad press/customer relation was more costly than the fix. With the Cobra, the PR was the cost balanced against the investment in repairs. It depends on the severity of the issue, and would likely be only situations were the issue had to be fixed and not let slide.

But tied to that, it would also be related to how many complaints they got in the first place. If its only one or two, then the problem is low exposure, low risk. But if they have a lot of problem cars, then the exposure will make them take action. That's why its important to waste the dealer's time with diagnosing the thud, even if we know in advance what they'll tell us. The more times that a complaint is filed, the high profile it becomes. The Cobra recall started when owners dynoed their cars and found them underperforming. It was an era were internet influence was starting to become important, and the stink that was raised became high profile quickly.

 

[smokinzx14r]

lol they arent going to recall anything because some people dont like the thump


Recalls are for hardcore safety issues that can cause death.

Not true , I got a recall started for a motorcycle problem that was NOT hard core ..

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