Mach 1 to get 525hp

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I am sure it is accurate - it is literally re-print of Ford's press release. Tremec is a nice touch especially with a rev matching but rest is exactly what I thought - few parts thrown in - little more than on PP2.
One can only hope that the Tremec with the correct drive shaft will make it's way into the Ford Performance catalog. Would be a good upgrade for a few guys with transmission problems as well.





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First of all
1) the mods Ford did to the mach 1 and bullitt engine alone make the 480hp rating a joke and the question is why
Ford came out with the same top end package for for the gen 2 engine remember the stage 3 frpp package. Ford rated that at 478hp, yes the tune will be more aggressive than what you’ll get on the mach 1 and bullitt. But the bullitt already has shown to make 420-450whp. Aka what some gt350s have made to wheels on a heartbreaker dyno. The point is the actual output is more like 500hp, so i wouldn’t be surprised if Ford pulls a 2013 mustang GT move and go wow it’s 490hp now and not much of anything other than made add some timing

the big issue for me is that they didn’t do some special just for the mach 1 on the engine side, it wouldn’t of been that hard to make it a 5.2 the bore is the same size as the gt350.
 

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First of all
1) the mods Ford did to the mach 1 and bullitt engine alone make the 480hp rating a joke and the question is why
Ford came out with the same top end package for for the gen 2 engine remember the stage 3 frpp package. Ford rated that at 478hp, yes the tune will be more aggressive than what you’ll get on the mach 1 and bullitt. But the bullitt already has shown to make 420-450whp. Aka what some gt350s have made to wheels on a heartbreaker dyno. The point is the actual output is more like 500hp, so i wouldn’t be surprised if Ford pulls a 2013 mustang GT move and go wow it’s 490hp now and not much of anything other than made add some timing

the big issue for me is that they didn’t do some special just for the mach 1 on the engine side, it wouldn’t of been that hard to make it a 5.2 the bore is the same size as the gt350.
Ford likes to do incremental step ups. I would expect them to step it up next year or the year after. It might be only changing the number in the sales packet. You have to slightly update cars to give the current owner a reason to trade up. I expected them to add some horses to the 2021 mustang but that didn’t happen.

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My thoughts why we didn't get something "special" for the Mach 1's engine.

1 - Ford are no doubt working on a Gen 4 Coyote for S650, so resource and funding will be focused on that.
2 - Mach 1 will be just a 2 year run (S650 debuts as a '23MY in 2022)
3 - Ford wanted world-wide sales. The Bullitt engine was already homologated for worldwide sales. Using it for Mach 1 just makes sense.

Do I wish it came with something like a 525hp 5.2 cpc n/a V8? Heck yes. Do I understand why Ford didn't? Yes I do.
 

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My thoughts why we didn't get something "special" for the Mach 1's engine.

1 - Ford are no doubt working on a Gen 4 Coyote for S650, so resource and funding will be focused on that.
2 - Mach 1 will be just a 2 year run (S650 debuts as a '23MY in 2022)
3 - Ford wanted world-wide sales. The Bullitt engine was already homologated for worldwide sales. Using it for Mach 1 just makes sense.

Do I wish it came with something like a 525hp 5.2 cpc n/a V8? Heck yes. Do I understand why Ford didn't? Yes I do.
I may understand why, but that doesn't mean I like it.
 

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My thoughts why we didn't get something "special" for the Mach 1's engine.

1 - Ford are no doubt working on a Gen 4 Coyote for S650, so resource and funding will be focused on that.
2 - Mach 1 will be just a 2 year run (S650 debuts as a '23MY in 2022)
3 - Ford wanted world-wide sales. The Bullitt engine was already homologated for worldwide sales. Using it for Mach 1 just makes sense.

Do I wish it came with something like a 525hp 5.2 cpc n/a V8? Heck yes. Do I understand why Ford didn't? Yes I do.
Ford is going to have to do some major updates to get over 500hp in the coyote that’s production viable keyword there folks

and remember they said this engine design was going last 10 years. So I wouldn’t be surprised if you see an heavily updated 5.0 and i mean heavily or a brand new v8 in the s650
 

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yeah, I wanted a 7.3 or rumored 6.8. Oh Well..
Ford won’t do anything with the 7.3 besides truck use, because if Ford did make a high performance version and shove it in a mustang it would negate all of Fords use of the mod engine being superior to the old pushrod design. It would be like Apple using windows as the base for there next MAC os lol
 

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My thoughts why we didn't get something "special" for the Mach 1's engine.

1 - Ford are no doubt working on a Gen 4 Coyote for S650, so resource and funding will be focused on that.
2 - Mach 1 will be just a 2 year run (S650 debuts as a '23MY in 2022)
3 - Ford wanted world-wide sales. The Bullitt engine was already homologated for worldwide sales. Using it for Mach 1 just makes sense.

Do I wish it came with something like a 525hp 5.2 cpc n/a V8? Heck yes. Do I understand why Ford didn't? Yes I do.
they used the bullitt engine because it’s already passed euro 5 emissions and was ready to go. It wouldn’t of been hard to CNC machine the heads. And go it’s 470hp in right hand drive and 500hp for the North American market
 

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Ford is going to have to do some major updates to get over 500hp in the coyote that’s production viable keyword there folks

and remember they said this engine design was going last 10 years. So I wouldn’t be surprised if you see an heavily updated 5.0 and i mean heavily or a brand new v8 in the s650
Let's hope that any 'heavy' updating means getting rid of the BBQ tick.
 

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Yeah, I feel like if they wouldn’t have sent the Mach overseas, we could’ve seen a 500hp Mach with GT350 heads revving to 8k
 

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Yeah, I feel like if they wouldn’t have sent the Mach overseas, we could’ve seen a 500hp Mach with GT350 heads revving to 8k
the issue is emissions and mpg ratings over there, have major implications on insurance, and the company itself. They did this to move more units over seas, good for them but I’m sorry it just needs something bespoke, honestly just CNC machine the heads and go it’s a mach 1 HiPo engine
 

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Let's hope that any 'heavy' updating means getting rid of the BBQ tick.
I got a meme for that lol and buddy i have a new ducati streetfighter V4 and Ducati doesn’t use valve springs, the bbq tick is nothing compared to the noises my V4 makes lol
 

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