Looking for feedback - Steeda Serialized Packages for S550

[SteedaMickey]

Serialized performance shouldn't break your bank!

We’ve been taking a hard look at the Mustang market lately. Between dealer markups and the high cost of serialized "collector" trims from "performance" companies, it’s becoming harder for the average enthusiast to get into a car that is truly track and street capable without spending a small fortune on a badge.

At Steeda, we believe in Performance over Prestige. We are looking to gather information on how to better serve the Mustang aftermarket community by asking you what you would like to see in a performance package that will outperform the high-end serialized cars at a much more attainable price point.

1. What is your priority? If you had to choose a focus of these packages, where do you want the bulk of the budget to go? Suspension, chassis, power, etc.
2. Wheel/Tire Setup: Would you prefer the package include a dedicated track wheel/tire fitment, or do you prefer to source your own?
3. NVH / Daily Balance: Are you looking for a "streetable" track car, or are you willing to sacrifice some comfort (NVH) for a dedicated no-compromise race setup?
4. The "Killer" Feature: What is the one thing those high-trim factory cars are missing that Steeda must include to make this the ultimate upgrade path?

We’re looking to shake things up. Let us know what you want to see.

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[mcky2011]

I have wondered if any upgrade is really worth the cost on the Mach 1.
Are there really "flaws" that need correction?
Are the gains really worth the cost and do those gains come with NVH?
My only modification since purchase is wheels and tires.
Project 6GR 7
Rear 305/35ZR20 PS4
Front 275/35ZR20 PS4

I have a mild desire for more power but not at the expense of traction. It seems like most add forced induction and the car becomes undrivable.

I put a BTR stage 1 top end on the 6.2 in my 68 C10 and had it dyno tuned, it is streetable but just barely for a truck.

A power upgrade for the Mach 1 would have to be balanced so I'm not chasing traction. There doesn't appear to be much to gain while remaining NA with pump gas.

 

[BlkMach10510]

The Mach 1 serialized package could be offered in a stage-type series kind of how the Roush stages are. Some just want cosmetics but would still want Steeda serial number up to forced induction. More options would be better for customers and for Steeda.

 

[Beaujangles]

Well, I have built the "streetable track car" that Sergio refers to in point #3 a piece at a time, primarily for budgetary reasons and not knowing what I needed/wanted to do next...that said a staged kit approach could be a good marketing move as long as the price didn't get out of hand...after I got the chassis sorted out with a lot of help from my local performance shop, I decided to do the boosted thing and add an ESS G3X with a Wingard tune to take advantage of the optimized chassis...so much for the budget...but I do have a Badass Bullitt...thanks to Steeda & ESS.

 

[Steeda-Sergio]

Well, I have built the "streetable track car" that Sergio refers to in point #3 a piece at a time, primarily for budgetary reasons and not knowing what I needed/wanted to do next...that said a staged kit approach could be a good marketing move as long as the price didn't get out of hand...after I got the chassis sorted out with a lot of help from my local performance shop, I decided to do the boosted thing and add an ESS G3X with a Wingard tune to take advantage of the optimized chassis...so much for the budget...but I do have a Badass Bullitt...thanks to Steeda & ESS.

Always here to be of service!

 

[SheepDog]

I think the issue with more extensive modifications - especially forced induction, is that it actually devalues the vehicle in most cases, and can make it nearly impossible to trade in or sell later.

mild suspension and chassis upgrades are fine, but when you add a blower or turbos to a car that did not come this way from the factory. No dealership will touch it as a trade and most people don't want it either in fear of install issues, having it worked on by a shop that doesn't understand the modifications, increased and different maintenance schedules etc.

To have a Steeda branded car is great for those of us that would buy it to keep it, but it isn't going to be seen as a collectors item or an investment, and you better be willing to keep it indefinitely, unless you find a private buyer that knows what they are looking at.

 

[Beaujangles]

Sheepdog makes a good point, however I was fully aware of those issues of trading or selling a heavily modified car prior to starting on this project and as I had no intention of doing either I went "bug shit crazy" on it...since I couldn't afford a GT500 I decided to build a "poor boy's" version and I'm sure my grandson will enjoy what's left of it when he inherits it, but in the mean time I will...

 

[Bob Lob Law]

I think the issue with more extensive modifications - especially forced induction, is that it actually devalues the vehicle in most cases, and can make it nearly impossible to trade in or sell later.

mild suspension and chassis upgrades are fine, but when you add a blower or turbos to a car that did not come this way from the factory. No dealership will touch it as a trade and most people don't want it either in fear of install issues, having it worked on by a shop that doesn't understand the modifications, increased and different maintenance schedules etc.

To have a Steeda branded car is great for those of us that would buy it to keep it, but it isn't going to be seen as a collectors item or an investment, and you better be willing to keep it indefinitely, unless you find a private buyer that knows what they are looking at.

That isn't necessarily true. My cousin traded in his C7 Z51 vette after putting a 2.3L Maggi on it to a major chain dealer and even got a decent deal(read didn't totally lose his ass). The car had to live on 93 + octane booster + meth injection even. I can see most dealerships not though.

 

[SheepDog]

That isn't necessarily true. My cousin traded in his C7 Z51 vette after putting a 2.3L Maggi on it to a major chain dealer and even got a decent deal(read didn't totally lose his ass). The car had to live on 93 + octane booster + meth injection even. I can see most dealerships not though.

I brought my Mustang to a Beemer dealer, just to see if they'd take it in trade for an M3. Even though it passes emissions - the Sales manager was like "yeah, no". If I really wanted to trade it, the best option would likely be to revert back to stock.

 

[luc]

The vast majority of Mustang’ owners are more into look than performance, at least from an handling perspective, proof is that very few seems to understand, or maybe even care, that the Mustang is a front heavy, understeering pig that need as much tire that you can fit, NOT in the back but rather on the front

 

[MAGS1]

Interesting question and some really good responses. For me, there’s enough power adder options out there and for the hardcore power adders out there, they’re likely to do things on their own that get them exactly where they want to be, so a hardcore power adder package doesn’t seem like a good use of resources.

As for what I’d want, I like the idea of a streetable track setup (can include or have the option for wheels/tires). A good suspension setup that won’t be overly harsh on longer road trips but would still do well in AutoX or road course, but not necessarily chasing every last tenth of a second. I would also include some chassis items (IRS braces, vertical links, adjustable sway bars, etc).

To me, a serialized package is cool but not necessary. I’m looking at the performance improvements of the package, not a number on my dash plaque. That’s just an added bonus I guess

 

[luc]

Interesting question and some really good responses. For me, there’s enough power adder options out there and for the hardcore power adders out there, they’re likely to do things on their own that get them exactly where they want to be, so a hardcore power adder package doesn’t seem like a good use of resources.

As for what I’d want, I like the idea of a streetable track setup (can include or have the option for wheels/tires). A good suspension setup that won’t be overly harsh on longer road trips but would still do well in AutoX or road course, but not necessarily chasing every last tenth of a second. I would also include some chassis items (IRS braces, vertical links, adjustable sway bars, etc).

To me, a serialized package is cool but not necessary. I’m looking at the performance improvements of the package, not a number on my dash plaque. That’s just an added bonus I guess

You have that with the Ford racing performance track kit

 

[SheepDog]

There is a market for tarted up Mustangs. Just look at what RTR has been able to achieve. A bunch of Ebay looking cosmetic mods, and they want an additional 26k for it!

https://www.lhmlakewoodford.com/new...Rop9e3Dc4ey5KNJ_1lsOF0O4CzE7_lNhoCwHgQAvD_BwE

 

[SheepDog]

https://www.phillongford.com/exotic...e=cars.com&utm_campaign=cars.com_VDP_deeplink

 

[SheepDog]

I do love Mystichrome.

Anyway, there is a market for this type of thing

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