Looking for advice, when should I go baffled?

[mox_GT]

So I got my 2017 PP GT about 6 months ago, I traded in my Ecoboost for it (poor thing had 187k on it) and I really would like to build this gt to be a solid daily I can take to a track day and have no issues. I was just wondering at this point, when should I pull the trigger and get a baffled oil pan? This car was very very stock, so I’m almost positive it needs oil pump gears still, and I figured since that’s a pan down job, if I want this car to be a reliable N/A corner car build, should I get a baffled pan and if I should, what are the best ones to go with?

Sponsored

 

[jacknifetoaswan]

From what I've seen here and in other forums, OPGs are only really necessary if you're using a power adder. As an N/A build, you should be absolutely fine with the stock OPGs. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a stock engine breaking them.

As for the baffled pan, I know a few people that have run into momentary oil starvation issues on the banking at Daytona, but if you're not tracking the car on a very high banked track, it's probably an unnecessary cost. I'd focus on tires, brakes, and handling mods rather than lower end engine stuff.

JR

 

[mox_GT]

From what I've seen here and in other forums, OPGs are only really necessary if you're using a power adder. As an N/A build, you should be absolutely fine with the stock OPGs. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a stock engine breaking them.

As for the baffled pan, I know a few people that have run into momentary oil starvation issues on the banking at Daytona, but if you're not tracking the car on a very high banked track, it's probably an unnecessary cost. I'd focus on tires, brakes, and handling mods rather than lower end engine stuff.

JR

If I were to go for a more agressive tune to let the car rev to 7k or higher I should get oil pump gears still right?

 

[2015 Silver GT]

If I were to go for a more agressive tune to let the car rev to 7k or higher I should get oil pump gears still right?

No

 

[jacknifetoaswan]

If I were to go for a more agressive tune to let the car rev to 7k or higher I should get oil pump gears still right?

I'm running the 2018 IM with a tune and redline is like 8250 or something. I haven't seen anything about someone running high RPMs on a N/A build that has broken the OPGs.

JR

 

[mox_GT]

I'm running the 2018 IM with a tune and redline is like 8250 or something. I haven't seen anything about someone running high RPMs on a N/A build that has broken the OPGs.

JR

Oh sweet, that’s good piece of mind then, what tuner do you use?

 

[jacknifetoaswan]

Oh sweet, that’s good piece of mind then, what tuner do you use?

I tuned through Palm Beach Dyno and have an SCT X4. PBD is one of the popular tuners, along with Lund, Wengerd, and VMP.

JR

 

[GTP]

So I got my 2017 PP GT about 6 months ago, I traded in my Ecoboost for it (poor thing had 187k on it) and I really would like to build this gt to be a solid daily I can take to a track day and have no issues. I was just wondering at this point, when should I pull the trigger and get a baffled oil pan? This car was very very stock, so I’m almost positive it needs oil pump gears still, and I figured since that’s a pan down job, if I want this car to be a reliable N/A corner car build, should I get a baffled pan and if I should, what are the best ones to go with?

I'm always baffled.

For tracking, when you put on stickier tires and/or get to driving faster your #1 engine issue is likely to be overheating. Start to plan for an auxiliary oil cooler. If your engine overheats (~250F) before then, just short-shift at 6k rpm.

Overheating your diff would be next, and you can also add one of those.

I designed and installed my own oil, diff, and trans cooler systems.

 

[EFI]

You don't need to do anything to the oiling system until you get to be a hardcore racer eg. coils, full suspension, R compound tires and are revving it out to 7000+. A stock car on regular tires does not need an updated pan or OPGs.

Personally I would do the GT500 pan and pump kit, it will hold and extra 4 quarts of oil over yours and it has some baffling. The oil pump and gears (while still powdered metal) are vastly superior in strength and flow to your GT one. They were engineered to handle a 760hp supercharged car revving to 7500rpm, so it will be perfectly fine for your stock Coyote.

 

[robvas]

https://www.modularmotorsportsracing.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=533

Just go dry sump!

Sponsored