Limp Mode on the Track

[shelbydave]

I've also been told and confirmed (two separate sources at Ford), that they are working on two different solutions for better cooling on base and tech pack GT350s. One includes a transmission and will be more expensive, and the other will probably come out later and will not have the transmission as part of it.

Purchasing a new transmission for a new car is completely unacceptable.!!

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[Hack]

Purchasing a new transmission for a new car is completely unacceptable.!!

I can understand why you would say that. I imagine running a cooler using the version of the transmission with the pump incorporated is much more reliable than a separate electric pump, though. I have been told it will be affordable - I'm not sure whether that means we will be given a deal on parts and labor or what.

 

[shelbydave]

What do y'all guys think a fair price for this fix is??

 

[likeaboss]

What do y'all guys think a fair price for this fix is??

$1 :ford:

 

[shelbydave]

$1 :ford:

I agree..from what I was told at a dealership today the tech cars are nothing more then flowerpots..that was in response while trying to trade the car in.

 

[mattlqx]

I agree..from what I was told at a dealership today the tech cars are nothing more then flowerpots..that was in response while trying to trade the car in.

Puhlease. Find a different dealer.

 

[superman07]

lets see how many transmissions go pop under 36k miles.

 

[likeaboss]

I agree..from what I was told at a dealership today the tech cars are nothing more then flowerpots..that was in response while trying to trade the car in.

Amazing how the dealers story changes when its time to trade it in.

lets see how many transmissions go pop under 36k miles.

Probably none because you only get 10 minutes of pleasure before the fun ends.

 

[Push13]

I suppose everything has been said about this BS. I just wanted to get in on the thread to keep in touch with any new options coming out.



Also, If anyone is keeping track, I might have the record. After 6 minutes to warm everything up, I took off and managed limp mode 3 minutes 36 seconds later. (autobahn)

It was an awesome 3 minutes though... covered 15.8km. that's 163mph average including a 90-120mph curve...

EDIT: Oh and one more thing.. I think the one argument that should be made is that any V8 camaro I buy today has a transmission and diff cooler. A 1SS can run longer on the track than I can.. Ford should be embarrassed..

 

[TxOilMoney]

I suppose everything has been said about this BS. I just wanted to get in on the thread to keep in touch with any new options coming out.



Also, If anyone is keeping track, I might have the record. After 6 minutes to warm everything up, I took off and managed limp mode 3 minutes 36 seconds later. (autobahn)

It was an awesome 3 minutes though... covered 15.8km. that's 163mph average including a 90-120mph curve...

EDIT: Oh and one more thing.. I think the one argument that should be made is that any V8 camaro I buy today has a transmission and diff cooler. A 1SS can run longer on the track than I can.. Ford should be embarrassed..

You're damn right they should be embarrassed. What a major fuck up. Owner's manual, track day supplement: ".....the Base model 350GT and the Technology package equipped 350GT can certainly be driven on the track....."
Assholes.

 

[firestarter2]

I suppose everything has been said about this BS. I just wanted to get in on the thread to keep in touch with any new options coming out.



Also, If anyone is keeping track, I might have the record. After 6 minutes to warm everything up, I took off and managed limp mode 3 minutes 36 seconds later. (autobahn)

It was an awesome 3 minutes though... covered 15.8km. that's 163mph average including a 90-120mph curve...

EDIT: Oh and one more thing.. I think the one argument that should be made is that any V8 camaro I buy today has a transmission and diff cooler. A 1SS can run longer on the track than I can.. Ford should be embarrassed..

You think it's BS the car without a cooler you chose not to get can't handle 163 indefinitely?

What did you think the cooler was for?

I do agree there option package on the 16s was retarded. But take some personal responsibility

 

[Jb350]

You think it's BS the car without a cooler you chose not to get can't handle 163 indefinitely?

What did you think the cooler was for?

I do agree there option package on the 16s was retarded. But take some personal responsibility

I agree with this somewhat....while there is nothing wrong with the tech pack cars for commuting and spirited driving. Those who bought tech package cars KNOWING that the planned to go to the track didn't make a smart decision. They chose"comfort" over function. Why wouldnot you opt for the car with the word "track" in its name when you had every intention of taking the car to the track. I agree that the way ford advertised this car being "track capable" was misleading in regards to the tech package cars. But again if one was planning to track their car, why whlouldnt you purchase the most track capable option?

 

[Caballus]

...I agree that the way ford advertised this car being "track capable" was misleading in regards to the tech package cars. But again if one was planning to track their car, why whlouldnt you purchase the most track capable option?

Because, as you clearly noted, Ford advertised it as track capable in all versions. So if not going to the track often or for extended periods (once-twice a year) why over invest? Ford owes a solution, period.

By the way, the example here was not track. It was Autobahn.

 

[firestarter2]

Because, as you clearly noted, Ford advertised it as track capable in all versions. So if not going to the track often or for extended periods (once-twice a year) why over invest? Ford owes a solution, period.

By the way, the example here was not track. It was Autobahn.

What track would you average 163 on?

Not to be flippant but I'm late to the game, did Ford say all models can be tracked? The mere fact there is a Track package would make one wonder why it exists. Most publications tested Rs?

I noticed before I bought the car the supplement in the owners manual said the R and the Track models can be tracked, so I think Ford always new the techs would over heat. I also saw the gt500 go into limp on a track. So I'm curious if Ford actually said they could all be tracked or people assumed.

 

[Hack]

Those who bought tech package cars KNOWING that the planned to go to the track didn't make a smart decision.

Very, very offensive comment - just so you know.

I've posted too many times already about my personal decision process and the reasoning I went through. But what the heck, why not go there yet one more time? :doh:

Just briefly. I had my base 2015 Mustang GT at the track. No problems. About 18 months ago, before any GT350s were on the street, before anyone heard of limp mode, I made my decision to buy a tech pack GT350. I knew I was going to the track and I knew that Ford said I should add coolers. However, I also knew that it was marketed to be "track capable" and even "the most track capable Mustang ever". I also knew that a base GT would do ok at the track. I figured the tech and base GT350s would outdo a base Mustang GT. At the time, it seemed reasonable to me. Crazy and idiotic, right? What the heck was I thinking? I must be really stupid!!

I would have believed that on a 90+ F day the coolers would be needed - sure that is reasonable, I thought. Or the coolers would be needed for an hour plus track session. I knew I didn't need an "all day" track car. I just needed 20-30 minutes at a time. I would have never guessed that 3 minutes at high speed would cause the car to get too hot, either. I also would never have guessed that over a year later Ford Performance still wouldn't offer coolers for the car.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I've been over this decision in my head many times. I know I made the right decision with the information I had at the time. I still think that in the end the car will be great once I'm able to get the coolers on it. Waiting is a little painful. Passing on a few track events I'd like to attend also is irritating. Hopefully by next spring it will be a memory and nothing more.

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