Lets Talk Price

[Colleton]

This is where I think we'll be. Probably a bit optimistic, but I tried to look back at previous model increases (off the top of my head).

Base: 61-63K
Track: 66-68K
Carbon: 70+K

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[V00D00]

This is where I think we'll be. Probably a bit optimistic, but I tried to look back at previous model increases (off the top of my head).

Base: 61-63K
Track: 66-68K
Carbon: 70+K

if thats true, it will be near impossible to get one due to demand

 

[protraxduner]

I have to believe the Base will be at least $5-7k over GT350 otherwise who's going to buy the GT350's. I know there different machines with 'theoritically' different audiences, but Really the majority of the GT350/GT500 buyers are normal people that want the baddest Mustang. And for a few grand more those people will buy the GT500. IMO....IMO assuming GT500's are somewhat plentiful and available i think there going to have a hard time selling GT350's, i think were already seeing that. Sorry don't want to derail the topic but I hope I am wrong but i think the price of the GT500 will have a pretty big gap between GT350 unfortunately. For those that have guessed somewhat low BASE prices I don't see that.

 

[Hack]

I have to believe the Base will be at least $5-7k over GT350 otherwise who's going to buy the GT350's.

I think there are some that would buy either, but there are also some that own/want GT350s that aren't as interested in the 500.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Well, the most expensive one I was able to build was $70,390, with a special color and nav added, most options aren't available on the ZLE, with D/H ($995) and the GGT ($1700), it's $73,085.

Of course, that doesn't factor in the easy-to-find $6000 discount The "street price" difference will of course be __ugly__.

Ugly will be an under statement. Both the regular hellcat & ZL1 can be had $6000 off list no problem today. When I was shopping Hellcats back in the spring. I had An A8 price out at 58K. I race with a guy that got a standard A10 ZL1 for 60K. The "new car on the block" tax is gonna be hugeeeee the first year. So I'm assuming ADM in the 5-10 grand range. With some as high as 25 the first year.

 

[aguilar310]

I just priced out a Hellcat Redeye Wide body with a lot of the bells and whistles and the total was $90K . So an $80K GT500 Track/Carbon is starting to sound like a deal. Or maybe my guesstimation is off by about $5000.

 

[obspsd]

A 2019 Hellcat Redeye is over $95,000 with all the options.

 

[SpursFan]

Everyone going nuts about ADM should consider the price gap between the 350 and the lack of cross shoppers that the 350 pulled in. The FPC was(is) special, a supercharged V8 is just that, will it be great yes but it won't be an 8,250rpm FPC. If its 4,200lbs that will further reduce the buyer pool. If price comments hold true and this is a 70-80k MSRP there goes another reduction to the buyers pool....all driving down potential ADM.

 

[Rothgray]

The Base GT500 will be slightly more expensive than a ZL1. Track GT500, will be slightly more expensive than the ZL1 1LE. That is my best guess. You should see what Lambo did with the Huracan Evo vs. Performante in pricing, if you want to talk about steep hikes for a new model tier.

As far as people thinking they will cross shop the GT500 with other cars in its price tier.. I doubt it, just like the GT350 was not so successful here either. No doubt, BMW, Porsche etc owners bought the GT350, but usually in addition to their current European lineup.

I know quite a few high end car owners, keeping a laser focus on the GT500 (a lot of us started with Mustangs), and will be aiming to add one to their stable. But this car won't be able to replace what these owners get with higher end offerings, as far as quality, and the finesse.

No doubt, the GT500 will be a terrific performer, but it will be a sledgehammer around the track, instead of a precision instrument.

 

[Colleton]

No doubt, the GT500 will be a terrific performer, but it will be a sledgehammer around the track, instead of a precision instrument.

I roll my eyes at posts like this. I believe the new GT500 begins where the GT350/R leaves off. Those cars are hardly "sledge hammers," so why would increased power and improved handling turn it into a sledge hammer?

It is not going to be a reprise of the S197 GT500, i.e. brute power with limited handling. I believe that it will be a GT350R on steroids.

 

[Hack]

I roll my eyes at posts like this. I believe the new GT500 begins where the GT350/R leaves off. Those cars are hardly "sledge hammers," so why would increased power and improved handling turn it into a sledge hammer?

It is not going to be a reprise of the S197 GT500, i.e. brute power with limited handling. I believe that it will be a GT350R on steroids.

IMO all Mustangs fit in the sledge hammer category. They are big, heavy brutes that basically overpower the road rather than fine instruments such as a Porsche. I'm not talking just power here, although Mustangs are heavy on power. The Mustang suspension is also set up to overpower the road IMO.

I'm not trying to cut the Mustang too much here. Obviously I like Mustangs. I've always owned at least one Mustang since 1990 - and I wanted one before then.

 

[Colleton]

Fair point, I can see what you mean. They are big heavy cars these days. The S550s though, and the GT350s in particular, don't feel like it. At least to me.

I bought my '15 GTPP solely for the improved handling and feel. My '17 GT350 stepped it up another notch. <fanboy> I fully expect the new GT500 to improve on that. Add in the power increase and I think there are going to be a lot of surprised people once this car hits the street. </fanboy>

 

[Rothgray]

I roll my eyes at posts like this. I believe the new GT500 begins where the GT350/R leaves off. Those cars are hardly "sledge hammers," so why would increased power and improved handling turn it into a sledge hammer?

It is not going to be a reprise of the S197 GT500, i.e. brute power with limited handling. I believe that it will be a GT350R on steroids.

It will be a terrific car, no doubt about it. But, it's not going to be world class. It will have amazing performance to dollar ratio. I guess you need to have significant seat time in higher end vehicles to get where I am coming from. This is in no way a dig at the upcoming GT500, but let's not forget that it is designed to do a lot of things quite well, but not master any of them. That has been what the Mustang has always been, a good all around performer.

There is a reason why cars that do it all in a fantastic manner, such as the McLaren 720S, Ferrari 488, and the Lamborghini Huracan, are all $300,000+. They all check off the quality, track, and drag performance quite well. (Ok, so the McLaren may be lagging in quality vs. the other two ;))

 

[Hack]

Fair point, I can see what you mean. They are big heavy cars these days. The S550s though, and the GT350s in particular, don't feel like it. At least to me.

I bought my '15 GTPP solely for the improved handling and feel. My '17 GT350 stepped it up another notch. <fanboy> I fully expect the new GT500 to improve on that. Add in the power increase and I think there are going to be a lot of surprised people once this car hits the street. </fanboy>

Like I said, I'm not saying there's necessarily anything terrible about it. Every Porsche I've driven I've found to be boring. Maybe I'm too much of a hick and the Porsche is too classy for me. I haven't driven a Miata or other small, light car recently, but my guess would be that if you tried them you would see what I mean.

Definitely I'd rather have a car that weighs 3,800 lbs with a V8 and 500+ HP over a 3,000 lb car with 200 or less HP. But some of those light cars give you a really great feel for the road by comparison.

 

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No doubt, the GT500 will be a terrific performer, but it will be a sledgehammer around the track, instead of a precision instrument.[/QUOTE]

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